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Regarding heal toe shifting, I am 60 years old and I've only owned manual cars ever since I purchased my first car.

I do not consider myself a "good driver" as I lack the finesse, I usually say that I drive like an ape...

yet I've always blipped the throttle when shifting down the gears as I slow down, and heal toe when downshifting while braking.

note that I have "duck" feet and cannot heel toe in the correct technique (nor can I snowplow, but that's another story...)
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since I cannot do the above, I drive with my heel just right of center of the brake pedal, and for my heel toe, I press the brake pedal with the ball of the foot under the big toe, and angle my foot out to reach the throttle with the outside edge of my foot. (as a side effect of pivoting on my right heel, I tend to bore a hole through the floor mat...)

since I was not able to test drive the FL5 before purchasing it, I was fairly surprised and disappointed that I was not able to heel toe the FL5 since the throttle pedal was too far down and out (right) for the outside of my foot to reach.

after a few dozen miles it seemed that the brake pedal settled down a bit from when it was brand new, yet I still was not able to heel toe comfortably

I did some research and discovered the Acuity throttle pedal spacer/relocation bracket

I tried all the positions and found that for me position C puts the throttle pedal exactly where it should be.

now that I can heel toe comfortably, I turned off the auto rev match as it felt weird and a bit annoying

I only have about 500 miles on it and I am still driving like a little old lady, I also still shift slowly and deliberately, and no hard braking, but so far so good with the Acuity bracket.

one other thing I noticed with the FL5, I am fairly good at starting uphill without rolling back (or stalling) but it seems that with the FL5, even though I never use the automatic brake hold feature, it still seems to hold the brake when I start uphill, weird, but not as annoying as the auto rev match...
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For hills…I didn’t even know it had an auto brake feature lol. For super steep hills, I just put my foot on the brake and lift off the clutch till I feel the clutch engage and take my foot off the brake and accelerate. Def used to make it a much bigger deal and was way scarier when I first started lol.
 

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For hills…I didn’t even know it had an auto brake feature lol. For super steep hills, I just put my foot on the brake and lift off the clutch till I feel the clutch engage and take my foot off the brake and accelerate. Def used to make it a much bigger deal and was way scarier when I first started lol.
I looked it up in the owner manual, it is called “hill assist” and it’s different from the auto brake feature (and seems that it cannot be disabled)

as far as starting from a stop on a steep uphill (in a manual car without hill assist), the technique you describe is what I do, it should not be scary, don’t panic and let it roll back a bit, better to roll back than to stall

also, when I first started driving a manual, I used the handbrake, pull the lever while holding the release button, take foot off the brake and give it a little bit of throttle, slowly let go of the clutch, while releasing the handbrake and giving it more throttle

as in acquiring any new skill, there is no substitute for practice and repetition, building up muscle memory

relax, don’t panic and have fun
 
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I looked it up in the owner manual, it is called “hill assist” and it’s different from the auto brake feature (and seems that it cannot be disabled)

as far as starting from a stop on a steep uphill (in a manual car without hill assist), the technique you describe is what I do, it should not be scary, don’t panic and let it roll back a bit, better to roll back than to stall

also, when I first started driving a manual, I used the handbrake, pull the lever while holding the release button, take foot off the brake and give it a little bit of throttle, slowly let go of the clutch, while releasing the handbrake and giving it more throttle

as in acquiring any new skill, there is no substitute for practice and repetition, building up muscle memory

relax, don’t panic and have fun
Do you have a page number in the manual for the hill assist stuff? If lurched on hill starts (and stalled once), but it's never been as difficult as in other manuals I've driven
 


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I dunno, I think you youngsters are missing out on the sweat-inducing fear of stopping at a red light facing up a steep hill, an idiot car behind you 3 inches from your bumper, and now the light's green and you need to get going without hitting him.
 

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Oh…then rev matching isn’t too hard. Just blip the throttle and down shift. Heel toe…I know very few people personally that I think do it well.
Honestly alot of it depends on the car and the pedal placement. I learned how to do it on my GT350 in 10 minutes because of how the pedals were placed. Im dreading doing it on my BRZ and the in the CTR the placement is still better but not ideal imo.
 
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Honestly alot of it depends on the car and the pedal placement. I learned how to do it on my GT350 in 10 minutes because of how the pedals were placed. Im dreading doing it on my BRZ and the in the CTR the placement is still better but not ideal imo.
When I learned it in my friends solara, the roll back was horrible. I had to move my foot significantly farther than in the CTR to hit the gas, genuinely terrifying haha
 

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I dunno, I think you youngsters are missing out on the sweat-inducing fear of stopping at a red light facing up a steep hill, an idiot car behind you 3 inches from your bumper, and now the light's green and you need to get going without hitting him.
what's wrong with hitting him???

his front bumper will stop your rollback :)

btw, when I am at an uphill stoplight, I give myself plenty of room forward, and if a car approaches from behind, I lift off the brake and roll back on purpose to let them know to keep their distance and not to stop too close to me if they do not want to get hit...
 
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what's wrong with hitting him???

his front bumper will stop your rollback :)

btw, when I am at an uphill stoplight, I give myself plenty of room forward, and if a car approaches from behind, I lift off the brake and roll back on purpose to let them know to keep their distance and not to stop too close to me if they do not want to get hit...
Good idea, I hated it when I drove an automatic, hate it even more now. Strike fear into their hearts hehe
 

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I dunno, I think you youngsters are missing out on the sweat-inducing fear of stopping at a red light facing up a steep hill, an idiot car behind you 3 inches from your bumper, and now the light's green and you need to get going without hitting him.
that's when they learn why you shouldn't stop so closely to the person in front of them
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