Has the 2nd gear grind happened to your FL5 yet?

[TypeRD]

Thank you so much and yes that is exactly what im doing, i have an appointment and well i just need paper trail. I know Honda will do nothing. Im just disappointed and yes i have to move on. Thank you for your advice, i just been on the hunt for information and did find others with similar issues. I just dont want to go through the whole legal process, i wish the so called Honda techs would be honest and fix it accordingly but they wont. They are told otherwise and thats what sucks.

Not sure where you’re located, but your dealership’s service department must be horrendous for you to have such a pessimistic view and already thinking about legal action. I’m trying not to think you’re just a negative person who can’t be satisfied, honestly. It’s hard to gauge where you’re coming from.

You seem dissatisfied about something that may be very fixable…but you’re just now taking steps to start the process with Honda…and haven’t shared any video with us of what you’re describing. If you can hear and feel it, surely it’d come thru in a video, right? With this kind of info, maybe you could get more help (here and elsewhere), but you’ve been so focused on explaining your disappointment that we only recently understood it’s a shifter issue and not gears grinding.

Maybe before you drop the car off, take a video and record what it’s doing. This can serve as both proof of your problem and you can share it here so we can all understand it better too.

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[JonathanA0315]

Not sure where you’re located, but your dealership’s service department must be horrendous for you to have such a pessimistic view and already thinking about legal action. I’m trying not to think you’re just a negative person who can’t be satisfied, honestly. It’s hard to gauge where you’re coming from.

You seem dissatisfied about something that may be very fixable…but you’re just now taking steps to start the process with Honda…and haven’t shared any video with us of what you’re describing. If you can hear and feel it, surely it’d come thru in a video, right? With this kind of info, maybe you could get more help (here and elsewhere), but you’ve been so focused on explaining your disappointment that we only recently understood it’s a shifter issue and not gears grinding.

Maybe before you drop the car off, take a video and record what it’s doing. This can serve as both proof of your problem and you can share it here so we can all understand it better too.

No i am not negative one bit and im out of Southern California. By the way its not a noise, i know a noise will for sure mean a red flag but its a feel in the shifter that i feel every time i shift, like the shift do go in smooth and if they do its rare. I am also not new to driving manual cars. Bro i dont mind if you think negative about me and if i mention NOT wanting to go through the legal process is because i really would not want that. Im also not dropping off my car, the Honda tech will be with me and he will test drive the car.

 

[TypeRD]

No i am not negative one bit and im out of Southern California. By the way its not a noise, i know a noise will for sure mean a red flag but its a feel in the shifter that i feel every time i shift, like the shift do go in smooth and if they do its rare. I am also not new to driving manual cars. Bro i dont mind if you think negative about me and if i mention NOT wanting to go through the legal process is because i really would not want that. Im also not dropping off my car, the Honda tech will be with me and he will test drive the car.

Cool. I’m just saying it’s hard to gauge you and your situation based on the info provided. You’re talking doom and gloom before even taking logical steps to help yourself. Do you understand my perspective, now? That’s all I’m sayin. Doesn’t mean that my perspective is correct, but it’s the kind of vibe you’re projecting. I’m sure I’d feel differently if this was an in-person conversation. Anyway…

Glad you’re taking it to be looked at. What you’re describing is that the shifter is overly notchy and doesn’t smoothly “click” into position like it should. Is this correct? I think there’s a number of things that can cause that (including being a new trans), but I highly doubt that it’s your actual transmission (the gears etc) that’s the problem. It sounds to me like it’s something with the shifter, the linkage, or possibly the sychros.

It’s a car. It’s under warranty. It’s fixable.

 

[JonathanA0315]

Cool. I’m just saying it’s hard to gauge you and your situation based on the info provided. You’re talking doom and gloom before even taking logical steps to help yourself. Do you understand my perspective, now? That’s all I’m sayin. Doesn’t mean that my perspective is correct, but it’s the kind of vibe you’re projecting. I’m sure I’d feel differently if this was an in-person conversation. Anyway…

Glad you’re taking it to be looked at. What you’re describing is that the shifter is overly notchy and doesn’t smoothly “click” into position like it should. Is this correct? I think there’s a number of things that can cause that (including being a new trans), but I highly doubt that it’s your actual transmission (the gears etc) that’s the problem. It sounds to me like it’s something with the shifter, the linkage, or possibly the sychros.

It’s a car. It’s under warranty. It’s fixable.

All good dude and damn you make it sound so simple and im not saying it in a wrong way and yes you have explained it perfectly on what im going through and i guess im just frustrated that given that its a new car, i dont want it to be worked on because its a new car. And yeah it might be fixable but i guess ill find out, hopefully.

 

[Ohlins8990]

No 2nd gear grinding issues to report here, but 2nd does whine and make more noise more than the surrounding gears.

 

[TypeRD]

All good dude and damn you make it sound so simple and im not saying it in a wrong way and yes you have explained it perfectly on what im going through and i guess im just frustrated that given that its a new car, i dont want it to be worked on because its a new car. And yeah it might be fixable but i guess ill find out, hopefully.

Trust me. I understand the reluctance to let anyone touch your new baby. But, you have to do it unless you know how to fix it yourself. It is truly that simple and logical despite the emotional struggle. Hope you get it fixed.

 

[JonathanA0315]

Trust me. I understand the reluctance to let anyone touch your new baby. But, you have to do it unless you know how to fix it yourself. It is truly that simple and logical despite the emotional struggle. Hope you get it fixed.

I understand and thank you

 

[TurboZed-R]

All good dude and damn you make it sound so simple and im not saying it in a wrong way and yes you have explained it perfectly on what im going through and i guess im just frustrated that given that its a new car, i dont want it to be worked on because its a new car. And yeah it might be fixable but i guess ill find out, hopefully.

When purchasing something new that's why they give a warranty. My focus RS had the diff leak from the factory, 370z Nismo had a bum throw out bearing at 2k miles, AMG Cla 45 had an evap sensor fail at 10k miles, had to remove the gas tank, drop the rear axle. It will get fixed and the car will be fine.

 

[JonathanA0315]

When purchasing something new that's why they give a warranty. My focus RS had the diff leak from the factory, 370z Nismo had a bum throw out bearing at 2k miles, AMG Cla 45 had an evap sensor fail at 10k miles, had to remove the gas tank, drop the rear axle. It will get fixed and the car will be fine.

Im selling it soon. Cant stand this but yeah you are right

 

[modern_sports_car]

When purchasing something new that's why they give a warranty. My focus RS had the diff leak from the factory, 370z Nismo had a bum throw out bearing at 2k miles, AMG Cla 45 had an evap sensor fail at 10k miles, had to remove the gas tank, drop the rear axle. It will get fixed and the car will be fine.

Good response.

 

[FL5golfer]

I sometimes grind 2nd gear when I shift too quick.

I've been shifting more gently with enough precise, force using 2-3 finger shifting. These cars aren't designed for hard shifting like mustangs.

 

[modern_sports_car]

My FL5 has 6000k miles. Had second gear twice about 3500 miles ago. Very disappointing. Didn’t grind again for 2500 miles so I figured it was fine. Just did it again this morning but I’ve noticed one thing that’s consistent: it’s only happened when I’ve unwittingly pulled out in front of someone and had to turn and accelerate hard with wheel spin and then it ‘buzzed’ in my hand going into second. One of three times, the roads were also wet, which meant less then zero traction.

Does turning and hard acceleration with wheel hop put any kind of specific strain or movement of engine within the engine mounts? I know a lot of people seem to solve this issue with an aftermarket rear engine mount.

edit: it also occurred to me that this could be user error, as well. In these situations, I’m very much ‘rushing’ and not in a precise or fun way but in a don’t -get-hit-by-that-car way.

 

[wolo]

Just had a second gear grind this morning. This was the third time. The first two could be driver error cause I wasn't paying attention, but after that I was pretty cautious but it still happened. This time I was quickly merging to the left lane from 0mph, hard acceleration and fast shifting. I was sure the clutch padel was all the way down and the shift knob was fully in second gear. The gear ground for 1 to 2 seconds and then went normal. The car is ~3500 mile. I was shifting way faster in my z in the past and never had an issue.

BTW when I just press the clutch down and shift among 6 gears, the second gear is noticeably noisier, sounds like in contact with a piece of metal or something.

Pretty sure the dealer won't do anything about it since it can't be easily reproduced. But will mention it next time in a service appointment.

 

[Integra23]

Just had a second gear grind this morning. This was the third time. The first two could be driver error cause I wasn't paying attention, but after that I was pretty cautious but it still happened. This time I was quickly merging to the left lane from 0mph, hard acceleration and fast shifting. I was sure the clutch padel was all the way down and the shift knob was fully in second gear. The gear ground for 1 to 2 seconds and then went normal. The car is ~3500 mile. I was shifting way faster in my z in the past and never had an issue.

BTW when I just press the clutch down and shift among 6 gears, the second gear is noticeably noisier, sounds like in contact with a piece of metal or something.

Pretty sure the dealer won't do anything about it since it can't be easily reproduced. But will mention it next time in a service appointment.

I have had similar experiences and almost each time I was turning while trying to quickly accelerate and shift into 2nd.

 

[modern_sports_car]

I have had similar experiences and almost each time I was turning while trying to quickly accelerate and shift into 2nd.

Exactly what happens to me.

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