What did you pay for your FL5?

[TDC50]

it's definitely NOT a gas station drip coffee ... i admit i did pay some ADM on my GT4 this year, BUT the percentage over was justifiable consideirng it's possibly the last generation naturally aspirated 6 speed GT4; caused me significant emotional pain though. GT4 allocations are still really hard to come by even though the cars have been out for a while so i thought i might lose my opportunity to order a new unit. i'm hoping the CTR production meets demand enough to keep the ADMs down because i remember lusting after a $40k car ('09 STi) and barely being able to afford it... if i had gone in and they told me to cough up another 50% it would be a no-go. Many folks are expecting to finance these cars but to dig $10-20k out of savings just to bring the price down enough to get financing is a shame for the budding enthusiast community. the market is what it is.

also, this effects me because getting this car is contingent on me getting it at MSRP to keep my wife happy. happy wife, happy life. she's let me go through quite a few cars over the years and if I'm getting another toy car, it's gotta be MSRP lol. rules are rules.

i think the *problem* with the CTR is that as an overall package, it offers enough to demand the higher price. I had a '22 Si and the interior is really well laid out with good infotainment/sound for the price (heads and shoulders above the GR86 i had) ... it offers a lot of utility and a ton of performance. as a family man, this car really is a FWD alternative to the M3, Blackwing, RS5. Getting those cars new at MSRP is hard enough and many are knocking on $100k. For under $100k, there's not a lot that realy competes with the CTR if you want: manual, performance, utility. you can do better if you only want performance (SS1LE), or utility (take your pick). I do think if the CTR were to really stay priced at $70k (don't expect it to) .. i think some people would rather get two cars with that same money... say an HRV and SS1LE.. . Have a total animal performance vehicle with a stick and track worthy and something really practical.

If the ADMs stay sky-high then i'll probably pursue another Si as my fun DD because it offers most of what i need out of the car (fun, manual, interior features, practicality - although i'd miss the hatch) for a lot less scratch.


i'm a rambler ... when you can brew inexpensive espresso at home, you drink a lot more of it ....

This ^^^? Same scenario for me. There aren’t any good NEW 4-door manual cars in the $40-$50k range that are light and with playful handling/suspension since all of the Germans left manuals behind in this price range. 2-door, yes there are options and GR86/BRZ is best dollar value for a fun to drive car. I too seriously considered a CT4 V Blackwing but it isn’t compelling enough to spend $70k w/ TTL let alone the expected depreciation that will be realized in 4 years. Used M2 is in the price range of the new Civic Type R but it’s two door, less practical and more expensive to fix as well as BMW being unreliable. MSRP is a great price for the Type R and now that it looks more clean even low $50k is okay considering the options.

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[SP R KiD]

I’ll be happy to say once they turn down my offer

I get it! I'm already locked in for one, just surprised an Ohio dealer mentioned getting one this week...gives me hope! Lol

 

[Blindeye_03]

I get it! I'm already locked in for one, just surprised an Ohio dealer mentioned getting one this week...gives me hope! Lol

Therr are 5 dealers around Cincinnati that have them in transit. All of them have $10k mark-ups except for Florence. They want $20k. Lol...

Id be okay paying $3k to $5k ADM but only if they included accessories or tint/ppf.

The dealer in Florence told me their civic sports are selling at 45k.

 

[TDC50]

Data point for Long Island NY, Civic Si’s have 3k-5k mark-up since there aren’t tons of them and Type R’s have 20k but those are just sitting.
Once you hit 10k or over there are lots of other options. Out of state purchase or upstate NY purchase is well worth the hassle to save 10 grand. I think the dealers here will be sitting on those 20k mark-up cars for AWHILE before ultimately selling for well below 20k

 

[Doublestack00]

2022 Supra 3.0 Prem $56,800

Data point for Long Island NY, Civic Si’s have 3k-5k mark-up since there aren’t tons of them and Type R’s have 20k but those are just sitting.
Once you hit 10k or over there are lots of other options. Out of state purchase or upstate NY purchase is well worth the hassle to save 10 grand. I think the dealers here will be sitting on those 20k mark-up cars for AWHILE before ultimately selling for well below 20k

I'd go out of state for 2K savings. Grab a $50-100 on way plane ticket and enjoy the drive back.

 

[RODSCIVIC]

Is it true that these type R's are very limited production?

I called a local dealer and again was told it will take a few years to get one if I get on the list. Because dealers are only getting a couple per year? So technically speaking shouldn't these FL5 hold value the next few years without depreciating?

I'm still trying to decide if I take the one coming in where I am first in line. I would hate to pass and then not see any available for a couple years unless I want to pay huge markup.

They are. Eventually you will see a lot of them for sell on Carvana and Car Max just like the FK8. A lot of people with deep pockets buy things because they want to be the first only to realize they purchased the wrong car for them when a Basic Tesla Model 3 blows their doors off.

 

[randomFL5guy]

Getting those cars new at MSRP is hard enough and many are knocking on $100k. For under $100k, there's not a lot that realy competes with the CTR if you want: manual, performance, utility. you can do better if you only want performance (SS1LE), or utility (take your pick).

I think a GR Corolla is a good alternative, and since the Morizo and Circuit are limited editions for just one year, there will probably be other limited editions coming in future years.

 

[daazn]

I think a GR Corolla is a good alternative, and since the Morizo and Circuit are limited editions for just one year, there will probably be other limited editions coming in future years.

With Toyota coming out saying the GR Corolla will be limited in production, we will probably see the same or even higher ADM for it unless the market changes drastically

 

[mbaapk]

No back seat room and 1995 hyundai like interior.

 

[randomFL5guy]

With Toyota coming out saying the GR Corolla will be limited in production, we will probably see the same or even higher ADM for it unless the market changes drastically

Idk 8000 cars a year for the US is hardly limited production, that's twice as many compared to the FK8.

 

[holland1]

Idk 8000 cars a year for the US is hardly limited production, that's twice as many compared to the FK8.

Do we know Type R numbers per year yet?

 

[randomFL5guy]

Do we know Type R numbers per year yet?

I don't think so, and I doubt Honda will release that information anytime soon. I will say in their Type R presentation slides, they showed off how the FK8 allowed them to sell more Type R's than ever before, and I feel like if they pulled out sales numbers to flaunt, they might try and sell even more FL5s than FK8s.

 

[hollis]

I sat in a Veloster N and base Corolla hatchback. No comparison, the Corolla was way better fit and finish, material quality, build quality, and ergonomics. Yes the layout is a bit dated but not that bad. Even the back seats in the Corolla were somehow very usable.

 

[ElDuder]

Idk 8000 cars a year for the US is hardly limited production, that's twice as many compared to the FK8.

Theres about 20k FK8s in the US….. Even if it were only 8k that’s still limited when taking into account total Civic build numbers and total population of the US….

 

[Blindeye_03]

They are. Eventually you will see a lot of them for sell on Carvana and Car Max just like the FK8. A lot of people with deep pockets buy things because they want to be the first only to realize they purchased the wrong car for them when a Basic Tesla Model 3 blows their doors off.

Yep or ohnoess my type r has really stiff suspension. Time to sell it .

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