Type R Spring Track Day - May 24-25, 2025 VIR

[yeaitsahonda]

David making shit look easy over here.....

I wish it was easy. Those esses are terrifying!

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[PointByPatrol]

I wish it was easy. Those esses are terrifying!

Your hands are so light in the esses! I grip up through there!

 

[m3bs]

Nice lap! Wish I could have been there.

 

[Vtec87pr1]

i should had stayed and ride alone with you but i was so tired i was falling a sleep driving home.

 

[Vtec87pr1]

Looks nice and smooth. Getting a couple point by's too!

my instructor was very happy with my driving he really liked it. i just need to practice more the point by i kept making mistake on the first straight pointing to the left instead to the right. and some times ppl gave me point bys really late i decided not to take the point bys.

 

[J1Avs]

I cooked a set of Carbotech XP20s in one day. Removed my front brake dust shields and my backup set of pads (Endless MX75+) lasted Saturday and Sunday.

I was cooking them with the shields on.

If you are cooking pads with your dust shields on you should be considering different pads and evaluating your braking habits.

 

[J1Avs]

So where’s the VIR Lap Time Leaderboard for this past weekend?!

 

[BigBird]

So where’s the VIR Lap Time Leaderboard for this past weekend?!

Ben Thorn with a 2:06+ in @PointByPatrol car
@yeaitsahonda with a 2:10.7 in a fully stock FL5 on 660s

everyone else just doing work to be better

 

[svvitch]

Ben Thorn with a 2:06+ in @PointByPatrol car
@yeaitsahonda with a 2:10.7 in a fully stock FL5 on 660s

everyone else just doing work to be better

First time vir and first solo in like 20 (ouch I'm old) years times were recorded and I beat my goal time.

 

[Djseto]

If you are cooking pads with your dust shields on you should be considering different pads and evaluating your braking habits.

@PointByPatrol had the same issue in the past. My braking habits are pretty solid for this track now. I’ve logged over 1000 miles at VIR over the last 5 years. The XP20 is a very aggressive track pad. It was 12mm to start and after one day, about (6) 25 min sessions, I was down to 6mm driver and 5mm passenger. This is with vsa and tcs off (type r mode + long press).

The two straights at VIR can get to 135mph+ and they require hard braking down to 45-55mph. I don’t drag my brakes but I do trail brake into a few corners but on the straights, I do brake late and hard. As soon as the shields came off, I had zero issues and more consistent brakes all weekend with a “lesser” pad in the Endless.

 

[Djseto]

Since all the cool kids are doing it:

 

[J1Avs]

@PointByPatrol had the same issue. My braking habits are pretty solid for this track. I’ve logged over 1000 miles at VIR over the last 5 years. The XP20 is a very aggressive track pad. It was 12mm to start and after one day, about (6) 25 min sessions, I was down to 6mm driver and 5mm passenger. This is with vsa and tcs off (type r mode + long press).

The two straights at VIR can get to 135mph+ and they require hard braking down to 45-55mph. I don’t drag my brakes but I do trail brake into a few corners but on the straights, I do brake late and hard. As soon as the shields came off, I had zero issues and more consistent brakes all weekend.

VIR is a former home track for me - I have quite a few laps there as well . What lap times did you run this past weekend?

XP20 is a suboptimal pad. This is far too much wear, and it’s paired incorrectly with the braking system if you need to remove the shields.

I’d recommend some other options if you are open to something different than Carbotech.

 

[Djseto]

VIR is a former home track for me - I have quite a few laps there as well . What lap times did you run this past weekend?

XP20 is a suboptimal pad. This is far too much wear, and it’s paired incorrectly with the braking system if you need to remove the shields.

I’d recommend some other options if you are open to something different than Carbotech.

Ah. Good to know. My last time out in Nov of last year my PB was a 2:15.5. Friday I was in the 2:17's knocking off rust. I set a 2:13 by end of day Saturday after being mostly consistent in 2:15s. Sunday, I was 2:14-2:13s all day if there was no traffic.

Def looking for your take on this: Last year I ran Carbotech XP12 front and XP10 rears. After 2.5 days, the XP12's were down to maybe 30% left. I was NOT happy as I expected better life. Rather than miss a half day, I bought a set of Endless MX72+ from a guy who had them new in box for like $100 just so I could finish my day. They were OK but I didnt love them.

This year, I called at brake guy I got my XP12 from and I talked to Mike at Carbotech. Both said I should have gotten more life out of the XP12 but said this time I should try they XP20 as they should last 2x longer and were only $20 more than the XP12 (I got the fronts for $260). After Fridays session, I was pissed at the wear. I called my brake guy and he couldnt make heads or tails of it and neither could @PointByPatrol. I was having dinner with some of the guys and one of them (I can't remember his handle here) mentioned the brake shields. I told @PointByPatrol later back at our AirBNB and he agreed that was it. He assumed I had pulled them off and I didn't know I had to remove them.

I'm all for trying a new pad but I do feel like I didn't give the Carbotech's a fair shake if this was truly the issue. There are a few instructors and endurance guys I know who swear by Carbotech. The being said, the Endless felt pretty good. I couldnt quite go as deep but they never gave out like I remember them doing last year. That being said @yeaitsahonda was running 2-3 second faster and he was the only one faster then me with a similar setup (stock engine, 200TW tires) but he's running counterspace garage pads that cost significantly more and blanks vs the OEM 2pc. @PointByPatrol runs an AP Racing BBK so his car and pace isn't a close comparison.

I am all for trying a new pad next time. I went with Carbo based on recommendations and because I am able get a 10% discount. I also run their 1521 street pad so keeping the same compound made switching pads easy as there was no need to rebed anything.

I am back at VIR for 2-3 days in Sept.

 

[StingertimeNC]

Since all the cool kids are doing it:

Really good stuff man. You and David crushing it this weekend.

Ben's student Ryan crushed it as well. Pleasure to watch and now I know what I need to do!

 

[PointByPatrol]

So where’s the VIR Lap Time Leaderboard for this past weekend?!

Ben Thorn 2:07.28. All new record!

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