Prospective new owner - from Porsche to Honda…

[antwon412]

Good morning everybody, new to the forums.
Looking to move from my first generation Porsche Cayman S into an FL5. I’ve had multiple cars over the years. We had a 2019 Honda Civic SI few years back. Really enjoyed that car.

I usually only keep cars for 5 years or so. I enjoy driving different brands and types of cars. Love to experience with a different manufacturers have to offer. So I’ll be lurking for a couple weeks doing all my research and learning about the car and then looking for one. Pretty decided upon Championship White. I had a 2020 Ram Rebel in white with the red and black interior. I think that’s pretty much my favorite color combination.

Great group of people here and looking forward to be part of the community!

A couple not so glamorous pics of the Porsche that is on its way out:

 

[AspecR]

Welcome, please don't hesitate to ask questions and get involved in discussions

 

[ModJPB]

Interesting choice. Coming from a porche, I would think youd be looking more at an Integra Type S. It's all the type R is but actually comfortable and with added luxuries. If you do get an ITR, probably best to keep it more than 5 years. They all have usually increased in value after they stop production and a generation skips by.

 

[TypeRD]

Welcome @antwon412 ! I’ll be keen to read your thoughts on the Type R versus your Porsche and any other fun cars you’ve owned.

@ModJPB I’m not so sure they increase in value, unless they’re practically undriven museum pieces. It’s the same thing as the S2000. People say they’ve gone up in value, which isn’t true. What’s actually happening is that they’ve kept their value steady with inflation, which is remarkable and makes them “appear” to increase in value. But again, only museum quality cars and special editions (like very well kept S2000 CRs) are worth more in today’s money than they were when brand new. I think that’s pretty much the same for Type Rs. Sure, one can buy one and not drive it for 20 years and make a few bucks selling it. Not my kind of “fun” but I’m sure some will do just that.

 

[antwon412]

Interesting choice. Coming from a porche, I would think youd be looking more at an Integra Type S. It's all the type R is but actually comfortable and with added luxuries. If you do get an ITR, probably best to keep it more than 5 years. They all have usually increased in value after they stop production and a generation skips by.

I have been looking at the ITS as well. I do prefer the styling of the CTR. And from what I have read/watched the CTR seats are more comfortable- though I know that’s very subjective. Additionally the ITS seems to be a bit more expensive as well.

I would think even the CTR will be a bit quieter than my Cayman. It is a very raw driving experience.

I will be doing some test drives of both.

 

[Xmetal]

Interesting choice. Coming from a porche, I would think youd be looking more at an Integra Type S. It's all the type R is but actually comfortable and with added luxuries. If you do get an ITR, probably best to keep it more than 5 years. They all have usually increased in value after they stop production and a generation skips by.

That's an odd thing to say. I came from a BMW Z4MCoupe and didn't want the ITS for the reasons you stated. If I wanted the sporty driving experience, why would I go for those less grippy seats? They're not that comfortable compared to the CTR seats - IMHO. I didn't care much about those "added" luxuries in the ITS either. The BIG things that the CTR won me over the ITS are (1) Type R gauges and info, (2) Red buckets, and (3) the BIG WANG. The ITS looks bland, IMHO.

 

[egxflash]

That's an odd thing to say. I came from a BMW Z4MCoupe and didn't want the ITS for the reasons you stated. If I wanted the sporty driving experience, why would I go for those less grippy seats? They're not that comfortable compared to the CTR seats - IMHO. I didn't care much about those "added" luxuries in the ITS either. The BIG things that the CTR won me over the ITS are (1) Type R gauges and info, (2) Red buckets, and (3) the BIG WANG. The ITS looks bland, IMHO.

It's always funny to see how tastes really do vary. When I cross shopped the two I thought I wanted the FL5 until I saw them one after the other. I found the FL5 dull, whereas the DE5 to me looked sportier so that's the one I ultimately went with.

 

[ModJPB]

Interesting turnout of opinions. Conclusion, test drive them and see which works for you.

I suggested more comfortable not just for seat shape. The ITS adjustable dampers go to a softer setting in comfort and normal mode. This can be changed on the TypeR with an ADS swap but not all people are comfortable/capable of doing that. The TypeR currently does not have heated seats, but the ITS does. Integra has more sound deadening material and active noise canceling to be quieter. Just letting op know the differences that are not apparent, but could be a deciding factor.

I may have stereo typed op desires since he is coming from a Porsche.

 

[antwon412]

I have zero problems working on my vehicles. I’ve done everything from suspension work to replacing clutches, to changing differential gear sets, wiring. You name it I’ve done it. Trucks, sports cars, new and old. I’ve had it all!

The Cayman is pure sports car. Loud. Bumpy. Glorious.
I have a feeling a near 20 year newer Civic type. R is going to be a bit more refined than the Cayman.

But even if it’s not, that’s OK. I like that experience. I’ll swap in the Integra control module to have some additional comfort. I like adjustable drive mode. I came in has the sports suspension so at the push of a button, I can stiffen it up as well.


I’m pretty much 100% decided on the type R. I’ll list my Cayman for sale probably next week and I assume it was all relatively quick. I won’t be asking much for it so somebody should get a pretty good deal on a pretty amazing sports car

 

[RedCarrot]

Welcome @antwon412. You will find more than few Porsche owners here (I recognize their user names on RennList), including myself, as the CTR is highly desired amongst driving enthusiasts from all walks of life. I had been shopping for a CTR for over a year before finally landing a very well sorted '24 (with many meaningful performance mods that I would've done myself) just this past weekend. There's a wealth of info in here that I am trying to catch up on.

 

[antwon412]

Welcome @antwon412. You will find more than few Porsche owners here (I recognize their user names on RennList), including myself, as the CTR is highly desired amongst driving enthusiasts from all walks of life. I had been shopping for a CTR for over a year before finally landing a very well sorted '24 (with many meaningful performance mods that I would've done myself) just this past weekend. There's a wealth of info in here that I am trying to catch up on.

Yep - while I’ve always like the Type R, it was a recent Rennlist thread that really helped cement my decision to make the move to an FL5.

 

[AZCWTypeR]

The FL5 chassis and bodywork is very rigid, something Porsche has done for a long time. I swapped in the ITS module, which I like for longer drives.

 

[zumbooruk]

I’ll swap in the Integra control module to have some additional comfort. I like adjustable drive mode. I came in has the sports suspension so at the push of a button, I can stiffen it up as well.

I recommend that you take a look at the DSC controller before you get the ITR module.

The DSC is more expensive, but well worth it.

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threads/dsc-sport-controller-suspension-module.60684/

https://www.dscsport.com/collections/civic

I had the ITR module from the first weekend I owned my FL5, it is indeed a bit softer on all settings.

But the DSC is much better, it has a much larger range of suspension firmness and adjust automagically from softest to firmest as needed. I just leave it on comfort and let it do its magic. ride is supple, controlled, yet firms up in an instant.

 

[jcb]

Had a GT2 in the past. Prefer this type R for my real world use. FWIW> welcome.

I know the guy who started the rennlist thread really well.

 

[caraholic]

I came from a taycan turbo S to the type r for my daily. Don’t regret it at all it’s an amazing vehicle. Very fun. Have also had prior GT products and this is as close to a fwd GT Porsche you will get.

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