The FL5 Dealer ADM Markup Thread

[rondre3000]

Dammit. I just did the paperwork on a new 2026 FL5 at a Honda dealership in Avondale yesterday ($5K over, plus another $2K in stupid dealer add on stuff). It was too late in the day for my bank to wire the funds over, so they're going to do it on Monday. Should I cancel it, or would that be a dick move?

Hope you were able to cancel. NO ONE should be paying over MSRP for a '26 right now. In fact, you should be able to get a deal UNDER MSRP for them. Time is on your side. The longer a '26 sits on the lot, the less desirable it becomes.

Good luck!

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[Phosky]

Hope you were able to concel. NO ONE should be paying over MSRP for a '26 right now. In fact, you should be able to get a deal UNDER MSRP for them. Time is on your side. The longer a '26 sits on the lot, the less desirable it becomes.

Good luck!

I went ahead and bought it, since I had already put it in my sig, and I'm too lazy to change it. Seriously though, 2026 is the last year for Rally Red, and that's the color I wanted. Besides, it's still half the price of anything else that was on my short list

 

[RODSCIVIC]

Honda World Westminster in SoCal has a 2026 Boost Blue for MSRP

 

[WeudS]

I went ahead and bought it, since I had already put it in my sig, and I'm too lazy to change it. Seriously though, 2026 is the last year for Rally Red, and that's the color I wanted. Besides, it's still half the price of anything else that was on my short list

Life's short. If it helps, it's better than the 10 over I paid in 2022 for my Rally Red. Certainly spent much more than on mods since then.

69k miles later with no regrets. (Last years winter setup)

 

[Nikw91]

Life's short. If it helps it better than the 10 over I paid on 2022 for my Rally Red. Certainly spent much more than on mods since then.

69k miles later with no regrets. (Last years winter setup)

hell yeah! Rack them miles up!

are those 265/35/19

 

[Xmetal]

Life's short. If it helps it better than the 10 over I paid on 2022 for my Rally Red. Certainly spent much more than on mods since then.

69k miles later with no regrets. (Last years winter setup)

10k over in 22 is like 5k over on a 2026 without all that much improvement over the years...just MSRP increases. Plus, you get to enjoy the car for all those years! So, it isn't that bad if you look at it that way.

 

[WeudS]

hell yeah! Rack them miles up!

are those 265/35/19

Yes, they are.

Specs below
Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4
265/35/19
20mm Spacers square
RSR-BEST I Active Coilovers
-2.0° of camber all around.

Rubbed a bit at the ride height in the picture. Particularly on large compression incidents. Move the fronts to -2.5° of camber to get rid of the rubbing.

I actually have the same tires on my Spoon 19x.9.5 45ET wheels. I actually don't have a picture of it oddly enough but I'll add it tomorrow.

10k over in 22 is like 5k over on a 2026 without all that much improvement over the years...just MSRP increases. Plus, you get to enjoy the car for all those years! So, it isn't that bad if you look at it that way.

Spot on with that perspective. Especially with how chaotic my career field is (mil), waiting around for the perfect price, when I could be deployed or taking a sudden dirt nap didn't match up with my goals. Plus it was always red or bust for me.

I've been fortunate enough to enjoy the car from New England, to the DMV, Eastern NC, tail of the dragon, all the great roads of SoCal, some in Texas, OKC, and Louisiana area too.

Misc. pictures from the journey so far.
Mod list no one asked for too.

Spoiler: Mod List no one asked for. All installed by yours truly.

Suspension

RV6 Adjustable Rear Lower B Arm​

RV6 Adjuastble Rear Lower A Arms​

RSR Best*i Active Coilover​

Spoon Rigid Collars​

KYO-EI RACING COMPOSITE R40 ICONIX M14XP1.5R RADIUS SEAT SET BLACK​

Spoon Engine Transmision Mount Set​

Honda Civic FL5 Type-R Front Wishbone Rear Bushings - Caster Offset & Anti-Lift​

Powerflex front control arms front bushings 1001​

Hardrace Rear Endlinks​

Spoon Sports Front Zero Bump Steer Kit​

SPOON MOTION CONTROL BEAM FRONT REAR FOR CIVIC FL1 FL5​

Spoon Sports Front Stiff Plate​

Spoon Front Sway Bar​

Spoon Rear Sway Bar​

Spoon Front Stabilizer Links​

Engine/Performance

SPOON OIL CAP FILTER​

Hondata Flash Pro​

Acutiy Shifter Cable Busings​

DW300C 340lph Compact Fuel Pump Kit​

Mishimoto Aluminium Expansion Tank​

PRL Black Intercooler / Charge Pipes​

Paragon 2-piece Rotors Rear Pair 350mm x 11mm (13.78" x 0.43") - Honda Civic Type R FK8 / FL5 - Larger Rotor​

Paragon Track Performance Big Brake Kit (PA015/PA035 6 piston) FK8/FL5/DE5 Front P2​

HEL Braided Brake Lines​

Hondata 2000cc Injectors​

FULL RACE HPFP​

TSP Ti Stud Kit​

GruppeM Intake​

RV6 Front Pipe​

RV6 R660AS Antisurge / T51R RED Ball Bearing Turbo W CF Pipe​

Hondata CanFlex​

TSP Downpipe Black Cerakote​

Hondata 2000cc Injectors​

1:1 Tuning FK8 FL5 DE5 CANFlex Fuel Line​

Exterior

Honda Carbon Fiber Spoiler​

Lasfit Reverse LED​

Lasfit Rear Turn LED​

Flapfab Stone Guards​

SPOON SW388 19 9.5 +45​

Interior

Highwall Black Carpet​

Red LeatherShift Knob​

Trunk Tray​

Illuminated Door Sill​

Seat Back Protectors​

Lasfit Trunk Area LED​

Hypersuede Front Seat Covers​

Overland Designs Shift Boot, Center Console Wrap, Side console Trim​

Spoon Silver Shift Knob​

Acutiy Fully Adjustable Shifter​

High Preload Spring Acuity​

Mugen Steering Wheel​

Sound Deadening

 

[RyouSiRIOUS]

We just started going to dealers today making contacts for a 2027 Type R. We inherited a free Toyota Rav 4 Hybrid and getting rid of it ASAP so we'll finally have enough extra money.

Since no one has a 2027 quite yet we checked what they're currently doing on a 2026 to get ideas of how they're selling them.

Ocean Honda in Ventura - no markup but they put in what is supposedly a $2000 aftermarket steering wheel. $1700 for Splash Guards, Wheels Locks, and a trunk tray. $999 for an aftermarket shift knob. $55,150 total price.

DCH Honda Oxnard - $5000 markup and $1495 KARR auto security and GPS. $57,330

Thousand Oaks Honda - $1400 protection package on top of regular MSRP.

We'll see what happens when the 2027 start rolling in. We told the sales people we won't be buying anything with any additional things thrown on and 2 of those dealers (not DCH) said they'd work with us.

 

[Xmetal]

We just started going to dealers today making contacts for a 2027 Type R. We inherited a free Toyota Rav 4 Hybrid and getting rid of it ASAP so we'll finally have enough extra money.

Since no one has a 2027 quite yet we checked what they're currently doing on a 2026 to get ideas of how they're selling them.

Ocean Honda in Ventura - no markup but they put in what is supposedly a $2000 aftermarket steering wheel. $1700 for Splash Guards, Wheels Locks, and a trunk tray. $999 for an aftermarket shift knob. $55,150 total price.

DCH Honda Oxnard - $5000 markup and $1495 KARR auto security and GPS. $57,330

Thousand Oaks Honda - $1400 protection package on top of regular MSRP.

We'll see what happens when the 2027 start rolling in. We told the sales people we won't be buying anything with any additional things thrown on and 2 of those dealers (not DCH) said they'd work with us.

Can't believed they're still doing crazy markup on leftover 2026! I paid $49.5k (before tax & fees) for mine back in May of last year - that was with a $2k markup with no required add-on. I felt like I got ripped to shreds, but glad I'd pulled the trigger on it after seeing these crazy prices even til this day made feel a bit better on my decision. I was so frustrated after dealing with 30+ dealers and was about to throw in the towel on the FL5.

FYI - I love to see those "Splash Guards" that they have on the car? I don't believed there's anything for the FL5 officially from Honda?

 

[RyouSiRIOUS]

Can't believed they're still doing crazy markup on leftover 2026! I paid $49.5k (before tax & fees) for mine back in May of last year - that was with a $2k markup with no required add-on. I felt like I got ripped to shreds, but glad I'd pulled the trigger on it after seeing these crazy prices even til this day made feel a bit better on my decision. I was so frustrated after dealing with 30+ dealers and was about to throw in the towel on the FL5.

FYI - I love to see those "Splash Guards" that they have on the car? I don't believed there's anything for the FL5 officially from Honda?

Yeah, DCH Oxnard has a bad rep with the other dealers nearby. One of the salesman saw me take a pic and shake my head in disgust and didn't bother trying to talk to me. LOL

So far the other 2 dealers seem to want to help. Hopefully the 27 starts showing up soon.

 

[AspecR]

Can't believed they're still doing crazy markup on leftover 2026! I paid $49.5k (before tax & fees) for mine back in May of last year - that was with a $2k markup with no required add-on. I felt like I got ripped to shreds, but glad I'd pulled the trigger on it after seeing these crazy prices even til this day made feel a bit better on my decision. I was so frustrated after dealing with 30+ dealers and was about to throw in the towel on the FL5.

FYI - I love to see those "Splash Guards" that they have on the car? I don't believed there's anything for the FL5 officially from Honda?

It's not that hard to believe, demand is still outpacing supply even with inventory sitting. In the grand scheme of things, the $2k markup you paid is nothing. The cost to run these things coupled with how well they hold their value renders the markup inconsequential over the life of ownership.

Not advocating for paying markups but various justifications can easily be made when it applies to these cars.

 

[Xmetal]

It's not that hard to believe, demand is still outpacing supply even with inventory sitting. In the grand scheme of things, the $2k markup you paid is nothing. The cost to run these things coupled with how well they hold their value renders the markup inconsequential over the life of ownership.

Not advocating for paying markups but various justifications can easily be made when it applies to these cars.

In retrospective, that $2k wasn't as bad as it was in my head since I have never paid MSRP for any car, let alone over. But paying over 50K for a civic when it's all said and done is still a hard pill to swallow even if it's a TypeR!

 

[RedCarrot]

10k over in 22 is like 5k over on a 2026 without all that much improvement over the years...just MSRP increases. Plus, you get to enjoy the car for all those years! So, it isn't that bad if you look at it that way.

That's one way to look at it. Another way is if one had put that $10k in an index fund in 2022, it would be worth $18k today and continues to grow.

For me personally, I always have one fun car or another, so delaying purchase of another fun car due to ADM is never a total loss.

Another thing about ADM is when there are enough people willing to pay 3k over, dealers will ask for 5k over; when they are enough people willing to pay 5k over, they will ask for 8k over... on and on. It's a race to the bottom for the consumers.

Not trying to be argumentative - just offering another perspective

 

[gtimportfanatic]

And to think i got my car for 48k out the door before taxes (bought in Boston, i live in CT)

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