The FL5 Dealer ADM Markup Thread

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So with the 2nd batch allocations coming in, mostly to new dealers that didn't get in on the first wave. Do you think they would want to sell for under what those first dealers got for theirs? I can't really see ADM going to 5k with this 2nd wave. Probably won't see 5k ADM's more until dealers get their 2nd and there are more stock around the area.
 

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So basically I can get a Model 3 Performance (0-60 in 3.1s) for $46,500 after credit and I will be paying $50k for a CTR taking into account a $5k ADM. So tempting...

I need to look into this, I want an EV for my wife's commute. The rav4 prime is nice but she never uses the gas only every few months to get rid of the old stuff.

Does anyone know if the $55k tax limit for cars is the base MSRP or once you start adding options if that will void the 7500? Even getting red or blue would put you over the limit.
 

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I need to look into this, I want an EV for my wife's commute. The rav4 prime is nice but she never uses the gas only every few months to get rid of the old stuff.

Does anyone know if the $55k tax limit for cars is the base MSRP or once you start adding options if that will void the 7500? Even getting red or blue would put you over the limit.
Just did a quote, it states " includes optional equipment physically attached to the vehicle at the time of delivery and excludes software features, accessories, taxes and fees."

I just did a build on a Model 3 Performance with an optional color and FSD, came out to $71,630 and it said I was still eligible for the credit.

That said, this is how I would order the car and it would now cost $64k. Not so palatable now.
 


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So with the 2nd batch allocations coming in, mostly to new dealers that didn't get in on the first wave. Do you think they would want to sell for under what those first dealers got for theirs? I can't really see ADM going to 5k with this 2nd wave. Probably won't see 5k ADM's more until dealers get their 2nd and there are more stock around the area.
For the IL and IN/surrounding states I can 100% confirm this to not be the case lol, instead they are pooling together and seeing what others sold at and coming in at the same price or HIGHER! It is kind of wild because so many of the GSMs I talked to were brining up cali and that dealer in texas at 100K. But for some semblence or silver lining if you will, North city Honda here in Chicago called and bragged they would be at $25K ADM, yet we have had two in state within 25 miles of that dealer that started at 20k and wound up selling at 10K after sitting for weeks. So the delusions are real.
 

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For the IL and IN/surrounding states I can 100% confirm this to not be the case lol, instead they are pooling together and seeing what others sold at and coming in at the same price or HIGHER! It is kind of wild because so many of the GSMs I talked to were brining up cali and that dealer in texas at 100K. But for some semblence or silver lining if you will, North city Honda here in Chicago called and bragged they would be at $25K ADM, yet we have had two in state within 25 miles of that dealer that started at 20k and wound up selling at 10K after sitting for weeks. So the delusions are real.
Yeah, those dealers getting the 2nd batch don't want to sell for any less than those other dealers made out for. Like I said, I think we don't see the ADM under the 8-10k range until there are multiple Type R's in a location sitting for weeks. And with production numbers so far, I don't see it just yet.
 

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So basically I can get a Model 3 Performance (0-60 in 3.1s) for $46,500 after credit and I will be paying $50k for a CTR taking into account a $5k ADM. So tempting...
I think Model 3 limit is 45k so maybe the performance is include (I think)...
also the battery has to be made in the USA or something to get the full 7.5k tax credit (I think) ...
I had a Model Y previously, so now I'm hoping Honda will bring in the Honda E ... love that OE hatch back look.
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btw, for you Honda executives, why would you guys/gals think this 135 mile range EV wont work in the USA?!?! How far is typical USA commute ?!?! I think you guys are CRAZY for not bring in the Honda E! :crazy:
 

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I dont really see how a Tesla price correction is going to affect the CTR ADMs to be honest. Tesla's are super pricey to begin with. The inevitable Carvana collapse and the flood of used cars hitting the market will probably help more.
 

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I dont really see how a Tesla price correction is going to affect the CTR ADMs to be honest. Tesla's are super pricey to begin with. The inevitable Carvana collapse and the flood of used cars hitting the market will probably help more.
yes,
but there may not be a flood of use Type Rs to lower the price for Type R's.
for all other "typical" cars, absolutely, the price will come down.

how you liking you new car :)
 


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yes,
but there may not be a flood of use Type Rs to lower the price for Type R's.
for all other "typical" cars, absolutely, the price will come down.

how you liking you new car :)
Yeah. Prob won't effect it too much, just a bit more than a Tesla price drop. What it will effect is your trade-in value as that's a reason I wanted to get mine early. I love the car btw
 

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The Model 3 performance fits in under the cap($55,000) as long as you only pick $1,000 in options. Which is basically means you get a white car with white interior or a grey/blue/white car with the black interior.

FSD does for some reason say it still qualifies for the $7500 despite pushing the vehicle price over $55,000, unsure of why that is.
 

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Stopped by Waldorf Honda today while it was closed. Their Type R is still there as well as the Civic Si, both of which have been there for over 30 days now.
 

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The Model 3 performance fits in under the cap($55,000) as long as you only pick $1,000 in options. Which is basically means you get a white car with white interior or a grey/blue/white car with the black interior.

FSD does for some reason say it still qualifies for the $7500 despite pushing the vehicle price over $55,000, unsure of why that is.
Software features do not count towards the limit, that’s why.
 

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