Eneos oil..

[dminusBird]

Does anyone know about Eneos oil?
can anyone tell me any information about it?
Is it a good oil to use on FL5? I’ve heard some
conflicting reports. Any information would be appreciated.

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[AZCWTypeR]

I gather they are well regarded, but read the USA formulations are highly refined group 3 oils vs. PAO base stocks used elsewhere in the world. In other words, consistent with Mobil, Castrol, etc. "Fully Synthetic" oils in the USA.

 

[dminusBird]

I gather they are well regarded, but read the USA formulations are highly refined group 3 oils vs. PAO base stocks used elsewhere in the world. In other words, consistent with Mobil, Castrol, etc. "Fully Synthetic" oils in the USA.

I appreciate the info fam! Thanks for sharing!

 

[AspecR]

Does anyone know about Eneos oil?
can anyone tell me any information about it?
Is it a good oil to use on FL5? I’ve heard some
conflicting reports. Any information would be appreciated.

Not a very popular brand among the community but it exceeds all the requirements that Honda has set since it's ILSAC GF-6A and API-SP then you'll be fine to run it

 

[ChampionshipWhiteFL5]

I’ve done a lot of research into oils and filters and stuff over the years and have decided that AMSOIL is probably some of the best stuff out there. Just like after researching filters, I use pure Purolator boss filters based on a big test that someone did on YouTube.

 

[dminusBird]

Not a very popular brand among the community but it exceeds all the requirements that Honda has set since it's ILSAC GF-6A and API-SP then you'll be fine to run it

That’s awesome. Thank you for the info!

 

[dminusBird]

I’ve done a lot of research into oils and filters and stuff over the years and have decided that AMSOIL is probably some of the best stuff out there. Just like after researching filters, I use pure Purolator boss filters based on a big test that someone did on YouTube.

amsoil is one that a lot of people use and recommend. Thank you sir for your input.

 

[Spart]

I’ve done a lot of research into oils and filters and stuff over the years and have decided that AMSOIL is probably some of the best stuff out there. Just like after researching filters, I use pure Purolator boss filters based on a big test that someone did on YouTube.

Just be aware that of the products Amsoil sells, the most popular and commonly used one "Signature Series" does NOT meet Honda's requirements. It is not an API oil and does not have the API donut.

The "OE" oil that Amsoil sells does (seem to) meet Honda's requirements:

https://amsoilcontent.com/ams/lit/databulletins/g3404.pdf
https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-oe-0w-20-100-synthetic-motor-oil-oez/

Edit: here are the Amsoil 0W-20 oils that are licensed by API, pulled from API's website:

 

[ChampionshipWhiteFL5]

I only use 5w 30.

 

[Ktrw]

Just be aware that of the products Amsoil sells, the most popular and commonly used one "Signature Series" does NOT meet Honda's requirements. It is not an API oil and does not have the API donut.

The "OE" oil that Amsoil sells does (seem to) meet Honda's requirements:

https://amsoilcontent.com/ams/lit/databulletins/g3404.pdf
https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-oe-0w-20-100-synthetic-motor-oil-oez/

Edit: here are the Amsoil 0W-20 oils that are licensed by API, pulled from API's website:

This is true, however signature series is a WAY better oil, and isn't an API oil because it is not limited to API standard additive package levels for a given oil weight. For example, 5W-30 SS has more ZDDP than is allowed for a 5W-30 API SP oil. For all effective purposes, SS blows Hondas actual requirements out of the water since it is a great oil for DI turbo engines.

I wouldn't even bother running Amsoil OE oil since it's nothing special, but to each their own. If you want a cheaper version of signature series that is also an API oil, just run Pennzoil Ultra platinum since it's just a slightly worse oil (much worse for long drain intervals) for way less money.

 

[ChampionshipWhiteFL5]

Yeah, I use the Sig series 5w30 oil, and Boss filters on all the cars.

 

[Xmetal]

This is true, however signature series is a WAY better oil, and isn't an API oil because it is not limited to API standard additive package levels for a given oil weight. For example, 5W-30 SS has more ZDDP than is allowed for a 5W-30 API SP oil. For all effective purposes, SS blows Hondas actual requirements out of the water since it is a great oil for DI turbo engines.

I wouldn't even bother running Amsoil OE oil since it's nothing special, but to each their own. If you want a cheaper version of signature series that is also an API oil, just run Pennzoil Ultra platinum since it's just a slightly worse oil (much worse for long drain intervals) for way less money.

More of something isn't necessarily a good thing. For example, if your engine consumes a bit of oil via blowby, that extra ZDDP is bad for your Catalyst! API exists for a reason.

 

[Ktrw]

More of something isn't necessarily a good thing. For example, if your engine consumes a bit of oil via blowby, that extra ZDDP is bad for your Catalyst! API exists for a reason.

API certifications have been great for oil since SP came out. However, a non-API oil is not automatically worse than an API rated oil. Levels of ZDDP high enough, and oil evaporative rates high enough to damage catalytic converters are a thing of the past by a LONG shot unless you go out of your way to find some real garbage. Something like signature series has maybe 200ppm more ZDDP than an API certified oil (roughly 800 ppm for an API SP 5W-30).

I do also agree with you that more is not necessarily a good thing, especially for ZDDP, since the balance in the additive package and the base oil matter most. However, again, something like signature series is a really highly engineered an well-formulated oil. It's on a whole other level in terms of chemistry and performance than almost every API rated oil. It ranks very highly in TEOST, which is highly relevant to this platform, and has high quality base oils with relatively minimal shear, etc.

With that being said, oils are likely going to get even better soon since API SQ formulations are rolling out which are tested with new and more stringent requirements. Now oils will have to perform much better when new AND in a used state, which some formulations were skimping out on with SP.

 

[menikmati]

I've used their (now discontinued) Sustina line with no issues. I eventually went away from "boutique" oil after a couple of UOA's.

 

[Spart]

More of something isn't necessarily a good thing. For example, if your engine consumes a bit of oil via blowby, that extra ZDDP is bad for your Catalyst! API exists for a reason.

Exactly. "MOAR ZDDP" is just a talking point for the fundamentally clueless.

ZDDP competes with detergent and dispersant additives in the oil. For example, heavy duty engine oil (commonly used in diesels) has more ZDDP - because it has more detergents and dispersants. Lots of guys run Rotella T6 HDEO thinking they're ZDDP maxing, but the actual layer of zinc that gets deposited on surfaces may be no different (or even less!) than a non-HDEO oil with less ZDDP. Why? Less detergents and dispersants in the additive package.

The real proof is in doing used oil analysis. Talk to me when you find something that drops the wear metals in your used oil more than another oil does. Otherwise, you've just bought into the marketing.

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