Canadian dealer asked what colour Type R I want

[J_D]

Jokes aside, I do believe I know the real reason. Before covid, FK8 Type Rs were not selling in Canada at all. I remember finding a 2018 with 30,000km for $35k in early 2020 before the pandemic kicked off. New ones were sitting at the dealer too. I'm thinking they did the product planning for Canada with those early sales numbers.

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[CR-X]

Jokes aside, I do believe I know the real reason. Before covid, FK8 Type Rs were not selling in Canada at all. I remember finding a 2018 with 30,000km for $35k in early 2020 before the pandemic kicked off. New ones were sitting at the dealer too. I'm thinking they did the product planning for Canada with those early sales numbers.

That's not what I remember. The market was always very strong even pre-Covid. They sold more 2018s than any other year in Canada. I think 2018s were $42800. An '18 with 30k km sells for well over $40K today. We got screwed here. From 2900 units to 546.

 

[CR-X]

Still I am genuinely perplexed at how few FL5s Canada is getting. If nothing else once people start to move to other brands for their performance cars there ends up being a trickle down effect to other cars they buy.

I've owned 18 Hondas, 2 Toyotas. Got tired of waiting and ended up buying another brand. I still have my deposit at the dealer but I'm confident I wont get one.

 

[michaeljf]

You guys are getting all sorts of Chinese cars, have they influenced pricing at all yet?

They've definitely shaken up the EV market and put downwards pressure on those prices. But for ICE we're still seeing large increases at the bottom of the market, even for Chinese brands like MG.

MG jacked up the price of their MG3 when the new model landed last year. MG are still the cheapest in the ICE space but there is no sign that any of the Korean/Japanese brands are going to try to compete by limiting price increases.

I have a base model 2019 Kia Cerato that I bought for $20500 brand new. The last of them before the new K4 were up to $32000 and the new K4 is going to be $35000. Most other Japanese/Korean brands have had similar increases.

 

[Use20]

I met a guy who walked in to the dealer and picked up his 25 Type R for msrp + $2500.
we are getting closer to msrp deal! If you’re still waiting, don’t pay too much!

 

[Ac12]

They've definitely shaken up the EV market and put downwards pressure on those prices. But for ICE we're still seeing large increases at the bottom of the market, even for Chinese brands like MG.

MG jacked up the price of their MG3 when the new model landed last year. MG are still the cheapest in the ICE space but there is no sign that any of the Korean/Japanese brands are going to try to compete by limiting price increases.

I have a base model 2019 Kia Cerato that I bought for $20500 brand new. The last of them before the new K4 were up to $32000 and the new K4 is going to be $35000. Most other Japanese/Korean brands have had similar increases.

Ya the sub 20k new car market is long gone here as well

 

[Spartacus]

All cars in Aus are expensive. I think the cheapest Civic is around $40K CAD

Next to Japan you are correct 🫶

 

[Adidas]

In case anyone is in the market, Midland Honda has two R' for 87k & 93k. Act fast the dealership has mouths and kids to feed!

 

[typeroz]

In case anyone is in the market, Midland Honda has two R' for 87k & 93k. Act fast the dealership has mouths and kids to feed!

This is insane.

 

[mbraun]

Dropped by my dealer a few days ago. I was 4th to get mine last August, and they are now only expecting one more for 2025. Five in total for biggest Western Canada dealer (so they say). Originally they were told like 9 or 10 and are now only getting 5. Why so secretive Honda? Dealerships don't have a hot idea what's going on either.

 

[onepointsix]

Dropped by my dealer a few days ago. I was 4th to get mine last August, and they are now only expecting one more for 2025. Five in total for biggest Western Canada dealer (so they say). Originally they were told like 9 or 10 and are now only getting 5. Why so secretive Honda? Dealerships don't have a hot idea what's going on either.

I think we're nearing the end of allocations for us in Canada. That rumor from Summer 2022 was seemingly spot on. As for dealerships.... well, this go around taught me most really don't know anything and it was more an opportunity to exploit enthusiasts than anything. No question there are some decent dealerships but others, like my experience at Thornhill Honda, was absolute trash and I'd never recommend them to anyone for any reason.

My question to Honda would be why we got so little in the way of allocations? Was the arrival of the Integra Type S the reaso

That post that went up, last month I think, had us with about 40 more CTRs for the rest of this year.

EDIT: This post detailed the allocations as of January

 

[mbraun]

This is bittersweet as there are people who aren't going to get one, but on the flip side, good for those of us who were fortunate enough to snag one in terms of scarcity. What frustrates me the most are the dealers who worked around Honda's MSRP selling rules and screwed over many people. I don't understand how Honda would allow that. Originally I heard from a couple of dealers that there was going to be a lottery system, similar to the LE yellow model for these cars. I think that would have been wise.

 

[CR-X]

Dropped by my dealer a few days ago. I was 4th to get mine last August, and they are now only expecting one more for 2025. Five in total for biggest Western Canada dealer (so they say). Originally they were told like 9 or 10 and are now only getting 5. Why so secretive Honda? Dealerships don't have a hot idea what's going on either.

Yet a tiny dealer here in cottage county gets 2 within the past 5 months and are trying to sell them for $90K

 

[CR-X]

This is bittersweet as there are people who aren't going to get one, but on the flip side, good for those of us who were fortunate enough to snag one in terms of scarcity. What frustrates me the most are the dealers who worked around Honda's MSRP selling rules and screwed over many people. I don't understand how Honda would allow that. Originally I heard from a couple of dealers that there was going to be a lottery system, similar to the LE yellow model for these cars. I think that would have been wise.

The dealers won the lottery or so it seems.

 

[onepointsix]

They ruined the whole process. It seemed common cars were either flipped by buyers or the dealerships themselves, sold to friends and family first, or the mandatory add ons. The fact Midland Honda in Ontario has a CW CTR for almost 100K and another for 90K is crazy.

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