Considering a CTR

[Unobtanium]

I am considering a CTR for my next fun car. Some background on this...


I drove an ev6 GT for a few years. It was fast as hell and boringly reliable. I crushed almost every car that had a go at me. Roll or dig. But it lacked soul. It wasnt engaging. After a few wot blasts, it was very mundane. It also is going obsolete. The work to keep it on the road in 20 years is literally impossible or impossibly stupid to pay for. Its a consumable.

I want the opposite of that. I first came to that realization when I bought a 2011 CVPI for a beater 1.5 years ago. I put 30k miles on it by the time I added another 4k to the GT. Something about being able to work on it, the rack and pinion steering, the gutless but opinionated 4.6L v8. Vibes, man.

I want a fun car like that, but with higher limits. I want a car that in 20 years will still have a place in my garage.

Cars Ive considered: nismo z manual, m2x drive, rc-f.

But everyone keeps glazing the CTR. So I went to drive one. It absolutely demolished my expectations and I couldnt stop grinning. My only concern is...Will I miss the power? Will fwd become a burden? Is it special enough?

Id like to hear from some of you who kay also have or have cross shopped similar cars to my list.

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[dkhm3]

I don’t think one car ticks all those boxes.

 

[optronix]

Coming to a forum dedicated to a particular type of car is going to give you exactly what you expect. People here like the Civic Type R. Kind of a prerequisite for going through the motions of registering.

I had to google both of the cars you referenced. I consider myself a pretty avid car enthusiast and I couldn't place the alphabet soup you threw out.

I will tell you that (according to google), your electric Kia and, uh... crown vic are definitely the polar opposite of an FL5.

As for if you'll get tired of it or not, only you can answer that question, and you still won't know until 3-5 years from now.

I guess I'll put it in perspective by returning the favor with my own alphabet soup. I've had everything from dog slow Japanese 4 cylinder (KA24E 240SX and my current MX-5), kind of fast Japanese turbo (SR20DET 240SX, Talon TSI/AWD, STI), American muscle (68 Chevelle, 92 Mustang), German "muscle" (E36 M3, E92 335i, F82 M4, Audi S3/S4/RS5), Porsche (981 BGTS, 991.2 C2S, 718 BGTS and BGTS 4.0). That's not including the wife's cars, but currently she has a 95B.3 Macan GTS (which is arguably better than everything I've listed in its own way).

Note none of these previous cars were FWD. Some had a lot of power, some didn't.

I've had my DE5 for a little over 3 years now and I'm not tired of it. I did end up adding the MX-5 just recently but the DE5 is going absolutely nowhere. I would not choose any other car available today (besides an FL5, if that counts [it doesn't]), and in fact am keeping a sharp eye on what changes are made to the expected refresh coming soon. I'm leaning towards getting a new one regardless just to hit reset on the miles because I do indeed plan to keep this car for the foreseeable future.

I think the concept of epsilon effectively captures my thoughts on the chances of me moving on from this car. For you math guys out there.

 

[Unobtanium]

Coming to a forum dedicated to a particular type of car is going to give you exactly what you expect. People here like the Civic Type R. Kind of a prerequisite for going through the motions of registering.

I had to google both of the cars you referenced. I consider myself a pretty avid car enthusiast and I couldn't place the alphabet soup you threw out.

I will tell you that (according to google), your electric Kia and, uh... crown vic are definitely the polar opposite of an FL5.

As for if you'll get tired of it or not, only you can answer that question, and you still won't know until 3-5 years from now.

I guess I'll put it in perspective by returning the favor with my own alphabet soup. I've had everything from dog slow Japanese 4 cylinder (KA24E 240SX and my current MX-5), kind of fast Japanese turbo (SR20DET 240SX, Talon TSI/AWD, STI), American muscle (68 Chevelle, 92 Mustang), German "muscle" (E36 M3, E92 335i, F82 M4, Audi S3/S4/RS5), Porsche (981 BGTS, 991.2 C2S, 718 BGTS and BGTS 4.0). That's not including the wife's cars, but currently she has a 95B.3 Macan GTS (which is arguably better than everything I've listed in its own way).

Note none of these previous cars were FWD. Some had a lot of power, some didn't.

I've had my DE5 for a little over 3 years now and I'm not tired of it. I did end up adding the MX-5 just recently but the DE5 is going absolutely nowhere. I would not choose any other car available today (besides an FL5, if that counts [it doesn't]), and in fact am keeping a sharp eye on what changes are made to the expected refresh coming soon. I'm leaning towards getting a new one regardless just to hit reset on the miles because I do indeed plan to keep this car for the foreseeable future.

I think the concept of epsilon effectively captures my thoughts on the chances of me moving on from this car. For you math guys out there.

Very helpful. Thankyou.

I remember when Silvia with sr20det was a popular and accessible vehicle move in my area in college. Man what I wouldn't give for a clean one today!

That said, can you speak more to why you love the CTR so much, and do yoi view fwd as a benefit, liability, downside, upside, or what?

Obviously you have ownes some cars I grew up around loving, so your opinion personally matters to my questions. Thanks!

* a lot of the German cars you mentioned were on my short list until I read up on some of the things that would stress me the hell out maintaining or worrying about. CTR under the hood looks super tame, and googling OEM parts, laughably affordable.

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