Pinch Weld Lift Pads - ZL1 vs Versus

[Rhorn]

Awesome to hear! Honestly, my 5000TLX QuickJacks are inbound so, I haven't even set-up and tried using.

Yeah you dont need them. The provided lifting pads you'll get will work fine.

Also a little tip for the installation. You'll need roughly 3 bottles of Transmission fluid and whatever you do, do not lift up the jacks without any weight on them, otherwise you'll have to get creative on how to get them lowered

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[TheFactor]

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[timestamped]

Have you used them on our FL5 yet, by chance? I was doing some light reading of old posts and I found one where someone seemed to complain that it didn't fit well on our cars.

100% QJ pinch weld blocks do not fit the folded over kind we have

 

[blueroadster]

100% QJ pinch weld blocks do not fit the folded over kind we have

I bought the ZL1's earlier this year. I received them about a month after ordering.

Their sole purpose is to provide an alternative lift point so you can place jack stands under the folded over lift pads. Otherwise, you would have to put the jack stands on the pinch weld area. Here is a PIC for reference (I only tightened one screw to snap a PIC as I only use them when I need to put the car on jack stands):

 

[jdezee]

There are no issues leaving the jack pads installed permanently, use loctite and tighten properly. I have done it on multiple vehicles with no issues.

I second that comment about secondary jack point to assist with putting the car on jack stands. Also makes it dummy proof when your car makes it into a shop for any reason. Lessens the chance someone crushes the pinch welds.

 

[Rhorn]

100% QJ pinch weld blocks do not fit the folded over kind we have

Strongly disagree on this. The blocks included do fit

 

[2fast916]

Yeah you dont need them. The provided lifting pads you'll get will work fine.

Also a little tip for the installation. You'll need roughly 3 bottles of Transmission fluid and whatever you do, do not lift up the jacks without any weight on them, otherwise you'll have to get creative on how to get them lowered

Perfect…thanks!

 

[2fast916]

Their sole purpose is to provide an alternative lift point so you can place jack stands under the folded over lift pads. Otherwise, you would have to put the jack stands on the pinch weld area.

Good point to note. While we are discussing applications, the two brands mentioned in this post may have slightly different uses. The Versus pad is designed to install over the folded point on the pinch weld, based on the install video I watched. If that’s the case, Versus only provides a single use point, unlike ZL1 that allows for both jacking and jack stands at the same time.

 

[MooMoo]

Its a shame ZL1 has such bad customer service. I was not satisfied not only with CS but with their product (the tow hook fitment was horrible). A shame because these lift pads actually look pretty nice so you can lift car and then put the jack next to it, its a good idea. However I don't think I could part with my money with this company.

Also please if you take your car on track, remove these things, last thing you want is having this fly at another car.

 

[nattypiso]

Strongly disagree on this. The blocks included do fit

I’m with the other guy too, at least for me, my pinch weld blocks that came with my QJ (5000TLX Bundle) did not fit on the FL5 pinch welds. If it was a little bit wider, it would’ve been perfect. Thankfully I’ve been just using the regular blocks with no issues as well.

 

[timestamped]

Strongly disagree on this. The blocks included do fit

The optional slotted blocks was to what I was referring, they would not fit around the folded-over pinch welds. Maybe they are shallow enough to work on the portions not folded over and that’s what you’re talking about.

I wasn’t going to say anything, but regarding raising the QJ without weight on it, there are air shocks that you pressurize to I think about 45 psi to assist dropping them without weight, which is part of the hydraulic bleeding procedure. This is more for someone with them new out-of-the-box
than anyone who already has them setup and in use.

Cheers

 

[jdezee]

Also please if you take your car on track, remove these things, last thing you want is having this fly at another car.

I'm the same way, once I have had a bad customer service experience. Just stinks bc they do make really good quality product in my experience. Like I said I've used them for years on my other GM performance vehicles.

I get the fear of them falling off on track but if they are installed correctly with loctite they are attached better than most body panels on the car. The likelihood they would just fall off is very minimal if at all.

 

[Rhorn]

The optional slotted blocks was to what I was referring, they would not fit around the folded-over pinch welds. Maybe they are shallow enough to work on the portions not folded over and that’s what you’re talking about.

I wasn’t going to say anything, but regarding raising the QJ without weight on it, there are air shocks that you pressurize to I think about 45 psi to assist dropping them without weight, which is part of the hydraulic bleeding procedure. This is more for someone with them new out-of-the-box
than anyone who already has them setup and in use.

Cheers

Hmm not really sure what you mean. I'll be working on my car on Wednesday, I can throw it on the QJs and take pictures to show the clearance.

I do agree that with the pinch welds, its good to have them if you want a secondary jack point and dont want to ramps to jack up the car from the center but they aren't necessary if you have a QJ.

I dont remember exactly the process, I believe I was bleeding the hydraulics but I did raise the lifts and they weren't going down. Looked up and saw the warning label to not do exactly what I did lol. Im not a big guy (175lbs) and I had to grab a bunch of spare weights to lower the lift, thankfully that worked.

 

[optronix]

Its a shame ZL1 has such bad customer service. I was not satisfied not only with CS but with their product (the tow hook fitment was horrible). A shame because these lift pads actually look pretty nice so you can lift car and then put the jack next to it, its a good idea. However I don't think I could part with my money with this company.

Also please if you take your car on track, remove these things, last thing you want is having this fly at another car.

I learned today that these things exist, and I'm still trying to wrap my mind around all that's going on in here.

First of all, is the FL5 (and by proxy I'm assuming DE5) now added to the short list of the Camaro that extra bullshit like this is required to not destroy the lift points for these cars? I had to go through the mental gymnastics already of trying to use ramps to jack from the center only to nearly get my car trapped on the floor jack for eternity before someone said I didn't need to fuck with the center jack point anyway. I still used a rubber pad I bought from Amazon and seemed to work fine- at least no visible evidence that my car is destroyed.

Now forum wisdom suggests you need to strap these aluminum blocks to the bottom of your car? AND LEAVE THEM ON????

Seriously, I had to watch a video to know what the hell these things even were. In the video the guy literally mentioned how useful they are at the track. What. The. Fuck?

No way. These things could literally kill someone if they came flying off, and relying on people to make sure they accurately torque down a couple screws on an aftermarket part is all that stands in the way of that becoming a reality is not a comforting thought.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, this thread makes no sense.

I mean, I guess these things look like an effective way to not damage your car when you need to jack it up, but the extra effort of clamping them down seems unnecessary when a rubber pad will do the trick. What am I missing here? Why won't that work?

And no, I don't apparently have the disposable income to spend nearly $2k for a quickjack so I'm talking just regular ass floor jack here. Why would these even be considered as remotely necessary?

 

[MooMoo]

I learned today that these things exist, and I'm still trying to wrap my mind around all that's going on in here.

First of all, is the FL5 (and by proxy I'm assuming DE5) now added to the short list of the Camaro that extra bullshit like this is required to not destroy the lift points for these cars? I had to go through the mental gymnastics already of trying to use ramps to jack from the center only to nearly get my car trapped on the floor jack for eternity before someone said I didn't need to fuck with the center jack point anyway. I still used a rubber pad I bought from Amazon and seemed to work fine- at least no visible evidence that my car is destroyed.

Now forum wisdom suggests you need to strap these aluminum blocks to the bottom of your car? AND LEAVE THEM ON????

Seriously, I had to watch a video to know what the hell these things even were. In the video the guy literally mentioned how useful they are at the track. What. The. Fuck?

No way. These things could literally kill someone if they came flying off, and relying on people to make sure they accurately torque down a couple screws on an aftermarket part is all that stands in the way of that becoming a reality is not a comforting thought.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, this thread makes no sense.

I mean, I guess these things look like an effective way to not damage your car when you need to jack it up, but the extra effort of clamping them down seems unnecessary when a rubber pad will do the trick. What am I missing here? Why won't that work?

And no, I don't apparently have the disposable income to spend nearly $2k for a quickjack so I'm talking just regular ass floor jack here. Why would these even be considered as remotely necessary?

Its not so much about damaging welds. Well the verus ones are but the ZL1 ones are not. The point of the ZL1 ones is that you can jack the car on them and put a jackstand on the extra reinforced pinch weld next to it. Reason this is sweet is so that you don't have to put the car on ramps then use the jack in the middle point to lift car, then put the jack stands. Are these needed? absolutely not but for users of jack stands they could come in handy.

Rubber pad works fine and arguably better since its soft and wont take paint off. This just makes things easier for people that want to put car on jack stands. The verus ones basically don't do that and are just there so that you don't have to dig the rubber pad, can just put the back/jackstand and go. Again none is necessary and can be argued that both are a case of people wanting to spend money on things they don't need.


As far as track goes, as I mentioned, PLEASE TAKE THESE FUCKING THNGS OFF. I don't care if you use loctite, shit rattles off and this coming from under a car into my windshield will not be a good time. I have had something fly out on me from under a car and was fucking scary, I was lucky and dodged it but could have beem a cracked windshield or as optronix mentioned kill someone.

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