Rock chips on Type R rocker panels after skipping PPF

[mbraun]

I did bumper, full hood, full fenders, A pillars, partial roof, mirrors. Also did the piano black in btw the windows. And then I did the top part of the bumper right in front of the trunk (I did this myself lol). Oh and off course head lights.

Thanks. That's more than I expected! Will have to think I hate that I had to pay for ceramic coating from the dealer, so didnt want to waste that by putting on ppf... hmmm. Never thought about headlamps. I also don't drive it much but the paint is brittle and chips pretty easily...

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[MooMoo]

Thanks. That's more than I expected! Will have to think I hate that I had to pay for ceramic coating from the dealer, so didnt want to waste that by putting on ppf... hmmm. Never thought about headlamps. I also don't drive it much but the paint is brittle and chips pretty easily...

well the dealer ceramic is not real ceramic, that will be gone within a month. Unless they paid a real detailer to come do a proper ceramic but I doubt it. Its one of those dealers cash grabs so don't feel too bad about it.

Its a lot of stuff for sure but imo the right amount of protection for the money. Still not cheap of course but car still looks brand new.
I really recommend doing the partial roof and A pillars, I had stone chips on my roof on my last car. The honda paint is terrible so imo this is a must.

What is also terrible is how soft the windshield is so when I get a replacement I will be PPFing that as well

 

[mbraun]

well the dealer ceramic is not real ceramic, that will be gone within a month. Unless they paid a real detailer to come do a proper ceramic but I doubt it. Its one of those dealers cash grabs so don't feel too bad about it.

Its a lot of stuff for sure but imo the right amount of protection for the money. Still not cheap of course but car still looks brand new.
I really recommend doing the partial roof and A pillars, I had stone chips on my roof on my last car. The honda paint is terrible so imo this is a must.

What is also terrible is how soft the windshield is so when I get a replacement I will be PPFing that as well

PPF. I think it might not be totally legit but a 3rd party does it for all the dealers in the autogruop and they guarantee it for 4 or 5 years, so maybe it's not crap? Thanks for advice on pillars and roof.

 

[TypeRD]

PPF. I think it might not be totally legit but a 3rd party does it for all the dealers in the autogruop and they guarantee it for 4 or 5 years, so maybe it's not crap? Thanks for advice on pillars and roof.

That might be pretty legit ceramic and not the typical dealer junk.

The general recommendation for PPF is to cover the whole front of the car including the entire front fenders, mirrors, headlights, and the front of the roof, as these are the parts of the car that get the most pelted by debris at high speed. Other areas to cover with PPF boils down to driving habits, environment, and touch points (like door cups and pillars) and how much you want to spend.

 

[dkhm3]

Full front, mirrors. I did entire roof as the car is parked outside. Also partial on the lower parts of the doors especially the rear quarter panel due to canyon rocks. I also did ppf on the windshield.

 

[nashville]

Every time I hear PPF I think about people protecting the car for the next guy. Fuck that

 

[TypeRD]

Every time I hear PPF I think about people protecting the car for the next guy. Fuck that

…or they’re protecting it for themselves, long-term. lol

 

[nashville]

check this out, ppf isnt what people think

 

[Clark_Kent]

check this out, ppf isnt what people think

I watched the video, and this is exactly how bad info spreads. I’m not a fan of Matt, at all, but that’s not how you properly remove PPF. If you pull it cold and rush the process, of course this can happen. That’s user error, not the product.

What’s more concerning is how fast people accept this as fact without questioning it. No context, no scrutiny, just reaction. Murder board it. Challenge it. Pressure test what you see. Think critically. It makes a difference, every single time.

 

[scottjua]

I can tell you from experience. I had my sti for 20 years… nearly all of that had old school clear bra style PPF. IT didn’t cover the edges that great, but did its job. When I pulled it off just before selling it everything came off in most places with zero effect. Only the hood had some clear coat issues, but I think that was more ME than the old film. As I didn’t really know what I was doing taking it off. I didn’t have steam, so I used a heat gun and plastic razor blades.

Anyway, I learned too late that you need t maintain and replace it more frequently especially the old old tech that I had on the car.

In the end it looked nearly brand new aside from some edge chips. PPF is the way to go for long term ownership, but I’d strongly recommend checking with the manufacturer on life expectancy and replacement intervals.

 

[MooMoo]

Although what happened in Matts car coulda been his fault, or installers fault using adhesive promoters it also likely happened cuz car was paint to sample.

i do think our type R paint is not great, very thin and has chipped out in some cases already so ppf removal will be tricky and its possible that in some cases will come out with removal. There was someone here on the forum that had to replace some ppf and it did. This won’t happen to everyone but might happen to some depending on quality of ppf, who installed it/will uninstall it, how long is left in the car. Even with that possibility Id still install it.

i say 7/8 years and its replacement time

 

[Clark_Kent]

Although what happened in Matts car coulda been his fault, or installers fault using adhesive promoters it also likely happened cuz car was paint to sample.

i do think our type R paint is not great, very thin and has chipped out in some cases already so ppf removal will be tricky and its possible that in some cases will come out with removal. There was someone here on the forum that had to replace some ppf and it did. This won’t happen to everyone but might happen to some depending on quality of ppf, who installed it/will uninstall it, how long is left in the car. Even with that possibility Id still install it.

i say 7/8 years and its replacement time

This is a curious statement and I'm not following the logic. What does PTS have to do with anything?

 

[MooMoo]

This is a curious statement and I'm not following the logic. What does PTS have to do with anything?

I remember when this video came out I read some stuff about it and some people were mentioning that is know that the paint quality on PTS is inferior. I dunno why and I am not an expert but a more limited run of the color and apparently paint has more imperfections and just not as good. Its surprising of course since for the price you would think it would be superior but apparently it isn't.

 

[Clark_Kent]

I remember when this video came out I read some stuff about it and some people were mentioning that is know that the paint quality on PTS is inferior. I dunno why and I am not an expert but a more limited run of the color and apparently paint has more imperfections and just not as good. Its surprising of course since for the price you would think it would be superior but apparently it isn't.

PTS doesn’t inherently make PPF harder to remove. It’s still automotive paint, just a custom color. The removal outcome is driven more by factors like how the PPF was installed, how long it’s been on the car, environmental exposure, and removal technique.

 

[MooMoo]

PTS doesn’t inherently make PPF harder to remove. It’s still automotive paint, just a custom color. The removal outcome is driven more by factors like how the PPF was installed, how long it’s been on the car, environmental exposure, and removal technique.

I disagree with this. How the car was painted certainly has something to do with this. Yes PTS does not have anything to do with this as if it was done correctly it shoulda not come off but paint prep certainly matters, thickness of coat and clear. PTS is painted in a different place by different people and a few at a time so its not unreasonable to think that could be some issues that will be harder to catch that painting the same color 500 times every few days.

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threa...ing-ppf-install-2023-boost-blue-type-r.51382/

this is the thread where paint was pulling on the type R whole ppf was being installed not even removed. Its just paint but it was either not prepped properly or painted properly

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