The FL5 Dealer ADM Markup Thread

[Turbonium]

Nalley Acura in Marietta sells the Integra S at MSRP

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[Damoncage]

Norm Reeves honda Irvine has 10k markup. The sales manager would not budge on it.
Funny thing is as I'm about to leave the sales manager stopped me and ended up giving me a lecture on how their 10k markup is perfectly reasonable and the car WILL sell(repeatedly). Ppl asking lower markup because "Customers don't see logic".

I ran away as fast as I could LOL

 

[Looking4FL5]

There could be some deals this labour day. Good luck yall

 

[Lightweight]

This is one heck of a car and you will not regret it one bit. The steering is the closest thing to a GT3 that I have experienced. Good luck to all in getting a good deal this labor day weekend.

 

[I used to vtec]

This was very much unplanned/unexpected, but I traded my Black/Black '24 Integra Type-S for a CW FL5 at Roush Honda in Westerville, Ohio for MSRP + $2k in PPF & Paint Correction (both already completed before they called) and 2 accessories of my choosing (trunk tray and lighted door sills).

I got the ITS at MSRP on 6/19 and my trade-in value was ~$2900 less than what I paid, but after seeing the FL5 in person, I felt the build quality was substantially better in the FL5 vs the ITS. Should I ever want to switch back to the ITS, I suspect I'll have a much easier time finding one and believe this was probably my only chance to get the FL5 in my top color choice at MSRP (at least in the near future/with a relatively modest trade-in hit).

Congrats! I picked up the other championship white one at Roush a couple of weeks ago and I'm loving it so far.

Were you guys on their waitlist? I called them ~ 6 months ago and their list was a 100 people deep.

 

[RUNN1N]

Were you guys on their waitlist? I called them ~ 6 months ago and their list was a 100 people deep.

I must've gotten on their waiting list at some point between February and September 2022--the sales guy I was assigned to was a terrible communicator--and it landed me somewhere between 50th and 60th in line. I could never even get confirmation that I was on the list. The manager I worked with for the sale (not the bad communicator) said I either got their 5th or 6th FL5 (he knew the number, I don't remember) and said they averaged making ~8 calls per vehicle, with most passing on the car because of color preference or inability to get financing.

I probably asked an uncomfortable number of questions about the list and the allocation process (genuine curiosity) but he did at one point show me a Word document with page after page after page of names/phones/emails of people waiting in line, and I was surprised to see how early I was. Again, terrible communication by the original salesman I was working with (now retired).

**Length of waiting list aside, it'll be easier to get a FL5 from Roush than Honda Marysville--I truly believe there's something shady going on with the way they're allocating theirs as "they don't have a list" and "don't take deposits or presell cars" but every FL5 is somehow sold while still in transit and Performance Motorsports next door seems to have a continuous supply of FL5's with under 1,500 miles priced over $55k. I actually encountered another FL5 (Black) on 270 two days ago and noticed he had a Honda Marysville license plate frame and I really wish I could've asked him if/how he got the car from them. Instead, we both geeked out that we were driving the same car, as grown men naturally do.

 

[2k2s2k]

I got on the list almost exactly a year before I got the call that mine was available. I also go a call a couple of months prior for an SGP but I passed since I wanted CW. I remember contacting my salesperson to get on the list a couple of days before the official reveal when they finally showed the car without the wrap. I was told there are still approximately 70 on the list but same story that many pass or financial situation has changed.

I also had a similar experience with Honda Marysville where they seemed super shady about not having a list yet everything is presold.

I must've gotten on their waiting list at some point between February and September 2022--the sales guy I was assigned to was a terrible communicator--and it landed me somewhere between 50th and 60th in line. I could never even get confirmation that I was on the list. The manager I worked with for the sale (not the bad communicator) said I either got their 5th or 6th FL5 (he knew the number, I don't remember) and said they averaged making ~8 calls per vehicle, with most passing on the car because of color preference or inability to get financing.

I probably asked an uncomfortable number of questions about the list and the allocation process (genuine curiosity) but he did at one point show me a Word document with page after page after page of names/phones/emails of people waiting in line, and I was surprised to see how early I was. Again, terrible communication by the original salesman I was working with (now retired).

**Length of waiting list aside, it'll be easier to get a FL5 from Roush than Honda Marysville--I truly believe there's something shady going on with the way they're allocating theirs as "they don't have a list" and "don't take deposits or presell cars" but every FL5 is somehow sold while still in transit and Performance Motorsports next door seems to have a continuous supply of FL5's with under 1,500 miles priced over $55k. I actually encountered another FL5 (Black) on 270 two days ago and noticed he had a Honda Marysville license plate frame and I really wish I could've asked him if/how he got the car from them. Instead, we both geeked out that we were driving the same car, as grown men naturally do.

 

[Clark_Kent]

I got on the list almost exactly a year before I got the call that mine was available. I also go a call a couple of months prior for an SGP but I passed since I wanted CW. I remember contacting my salesperson to get on the list a couple of days before the official reveal when they finally showed the car without the wrap. I was told there are still approximately 70 on the list but same story that many pass or financial situation has changed.

I also had a similar experience with Honda Marysville where they seemed super shady about not having a list yet everything is presold.

Similar experience as @RUNN1N and @2k2s2k with respect to Honda Marysville. They're in the MSRP Club (as is Roush), but it doesn't matter if they won't sell you a car. I contacted them late last year and the communication/ engagement was off. What they were explaining certainly didn't make sense. It was clear the FL5s are earmarked and not available to just anyone. Of the hundreds of dealerships I've spoken to that conversation was peculiar and one I vividly recall. I decided to quickly move on. There's about 1,100 dealerships in the country, no need to dwell on it. And besides, they don't owe me anything. They can sell, or not sell to anyone they please.

 

[AspecR]

Norm Reeves honda Irvine has 10k markup. The sales manager would not budge on it.
Funny thing is as I'm about to leave the sales manager stopped me and ended up giving me a lecture on how their 10k markup is perfectly reasonable and the car WILL sell(repeatedly). Ppl asking lower markup because "Customers don't see logic".

I ran away as fast as I could LOL

They’re the number 1 Honda dealership in the country, that’s the last place you should look for a deal on a FL5.

 

[Doublestack00]

Jerry Damson Honda sales guy called me yesterday (I inquired 3-4 months ago) to let me know they have a BB Type R coming in. I told him right off the rip I would not pay more than 1K over and no accessoires.

He said let me see what I can do. Gave him all my info and trade details. He did come back with 1K over MSRP, but they under evaluated my trade by $10,500. I asked if he wanted me to send me recent offers from CarMax, Vroom and my local Honda dealer, he said they would not go any higher.

I was a straight dick and said look man, I told you within 30 seconds of answering my phone what I was looking for to not waste my time or yours. Why the fuck did you call me multiple times and have me gather all this info just to try and screw me around.

Then he started back peddling and saying well what were you trying to get your payments to. I said I am not a fucking idiot and do not shop for cars based on payments. Thank you for wasting my fucking time, have a great day.

I guess the cars are sitting as I've have dealers from all over the country calling me that I reached out to earlier in the year about getting an R.

 

[RUNN1N]

Similar experience as @RUNN1N and @2k2s2k with respect to Honda Marysville. They're in the MSRP Club (as is Roush), but it doesn't matter if they won't sell you a car. I contacted them late last year and the communication/ engagement was off. What they were explaining certainly didn't make sense. It was clear the FL5s are earmarked and not available to just anyone. Of the hundreds of dealerships I've spoken to that conversation was peculiar and one I vividly recall. I decided to quickly move on. There's about 1,100 dealerships in the country, no need to dwell on it. And besides, they don't owe me anything. They can sell, or not sell to anyone they please.

I even tried in December 2021 to tie getting spot #1 on their list to my buying a 2022 Si from them (they had no list then)... they claimed at that time "we don't quite know how we're going to handle the Type-R, or if we'll even get any." They're shady.

 

[MERAKIAUTOWORKS]

Called 20 dealerships, narrowed it down to about 5, Socal all less than $10k TOTAL markups w/ accessories. Lets see how low we can go..

-Josh

 

[Doublestack00]

Called 20 dealerships, narrowed it down to about 5, Socal all less than $10k TOTAL markups w/ accessories. Lets see how low we can go..

-Josh

Seems 5K ADM is about the norm now across the board.

 

[MERAKIAUTOWORKS]

Seems 5K ADM is about the norm now across the board.

Not here in SoCal, some dealers are firm at $15k-20k.. Ridiculous.

-Josh

 

[AspecR]

Seems 5K ADM is about the norm now across the board.

$5k is the norm for dealers interested in selling a car, the dealers at $10k over and higher haven’t read the room.

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