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There is one other factor that i have been mentioning for a while now...

As the newest sports and performance cars hit the market, there will be distractions. Just as the Acura ITS already (offered at MSRP) has pulled some potential buyers away... there is going to be a special Camaro, the Mustang Dark Horse, plus some other offerings (including new EVs) that will distract those who aren't specifically in the hot-hatch market normally.

We had a ton of buyers who are collectors and/or who have enough money to buy the 'hot car of the season' end up buying CTRs for stupid money. That is what hurt us most with high ADMs.

So, the new 2024 cars, conceivably will siphon off the people who have a lot of disposable income. Hard to know how much effect it will have on FL5 sales, but since it was the reviews that sparked a lot of the excitement in the first place... as a consumer behavior professional, i have felt the new toys would help a lot with distracting the people with money who have been contributing to the high ADMs.

One question i have is... how many people with FK8s are going to want to trade for an FL5? As the FK8s age, will owners continue to maintain them and hold them for posterity... or will they want to upgrade as their cars go out of warranty? Based on standard marketing principles... your best lead is a person who is already a customer...and the FK8 owner is the prime target audience.

Where that breaks down is with media/social media events that go viral and attract a totally new audience that wouldn't have normally even been aware of/interested in the product (such as what has happened with the FL5). That is0 the "fair weather fans" syndrome -- where everyone in a city is suddenly a big fan of the local sports team when they are a winning team...yet they stop following the team (and aren't that interested) once the excitement is over.

Obviously, there are lots of variables contributing to the price of the FL5... but, it would seem that some influences are moving in our favor -- including that there are now a bunch of us who have already gotten the car and are out of the market (aka a small bit of market saturation).

Crossing fingers that the planets will align...
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Ahhh yes...

The old... "Hey this is available again because someone couldn't get approved" line.

That sounds a lot better than they didn't want to pay whatever ADM I have and told me to get fucked. So now... I have TWO.

You can believe anything you want.

I'm not telling you it isn't possible. Just that the hype is the reason.

We ain't slanging scat packs. Lol.
what does ā€œwe ain’t slanting scat packsā€ mean? People who look at scat packs don’t get financed? Can’t afford? Why this specific car?
 


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what does ā€œwe ain’t slanting scat packsā€ mean? People who look at scat packs don’t get financed? Can’t afford? Why this specific car?
Internet meme material... I think it's auto sales humour..
 

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what does ā€œwe ain’t slanting scat packsā€ mean? People who look at scat packs don’t get financed? Can’t afford? Why this specific car?
what does ā€œwe ain’t slanting scat packsā€ mean? People who look at scat packs don’t get financed? Can’t afford? Why this specific car?
Scat pack buyers are former Nissan Altima owners that have got a lil extra money hanging around.

This is what the internet says so it must be true
 


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I feel like dealers are doubling down on the ADM even when the cars are not moving. I've gotten some wild quotes this past week.
Well, don't keep the wild stuff a secret. What have you seen?
 

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Well, don't keep the wild stuff a secret. What have you seen?

ADMs are higher than when I was looking months before. 15-25K.

Quote I get today after trading in my Integra Apec/Tech that's nearly paid off was right at 50K.
 

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ADMs are higher than when I was looking months before. 15-25K.

Quote I get today after trading in my Integra Apec/Tech that's nearly paid off was right at 50K.
What geographic area are you getting quoted 15-25K ADM?
 

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I feel like dealers are doubling down on the ADM even when the cars are not moving. I've gotten some wild quotes this past week.
People are still paying the ridiculous ADM it’s crazy lol. I got MSRP for mine but also had $6k of forced accessories on top. I still got a bad taste in my mouth from that šŸ˜‚
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