ECU Tuning options - Hondata / Ktuner / Other?

[ne_typer]

Has anyone been in touch with Hondata or KTuner?

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[Clark_Kent]

Late last year Doug created a couple of threads sharing dyno results of the FL5 on pump gas (91 and 93 octane). Not sure where they are with research and development on a tuning solution as Doug has been silent on this for the last 3-4 months.

https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threa...gher-octane-and-more-data-from-hondata.51298/
https://www.civicxi.com/forum/threads/2023-honda-civic-type-r-dyno-results-hondata-fl5.51201/

 

[Two Step Performance]

As far as I know, nobody has been able to tune the FL5 ECU yet.

I'd love to be proven wrong. I'm ready to REALLY have some fun with the car.

 

[Obscure_Worship]

Gonna be a massive letdown if this ecu cannot be unlocked. New Supra has a bosch ecu and you have to clone factory ecu to an unlocked ecu to tune. Turns a relatively cheap upgrade to a freaking expensive one. Nobody can have anything fun anymore.

 

[SKINNIE]

Gonna be a massive letdown if this ecu cannot be unlocked. New Supra has a bosch ecu and you have to clone factory ecu to an unlocked ecu to tune. Turns a relatively cheap upgrade to a freaking expensive one. Nobody can have anything fun anymore.

Yup the only reason why I decided not to get an A90/91 Supra. Having to pay to ship your ECU to Finland just to unlock it. Buy EcuTek or BootMod3 tuning software. Then on top pay for someone to tune it.

You're in the hole for about $5500 just for that part. lol

 

[saGOD]

Yup the only reason why I decided not to get an A90/91 Supra. Having to pay to ship your ECU to Finland just to unlock it. Buy EcuTek or BootMod3 tuning software. Then on top pay for someone to tune it.

You're in the hole for about $5500 just for that part. lol

I didn't know that. Looks like I dodged a bullet.

 

[SKINNIE]

Yea crazy since we're one of such a "technologically advanced" country, nobody in the US can't crack an ECU. lol

 

[Obscure_Worship]

I didn't know that. Looks like I dodged a bullet.

If you own a FL5 you may not have dodged that bullet. Nobody has cracked it yet. Car has been out since October and not one company has published an update on tuning. A little concerning.

 

[dandaman15]

"Nobody has cracked it yet." I mean hardly anyone that wants the car even has the car. I am confident Hondata will have a solution before end of year on the tuning side and probably much sooner. They just posted a larger update on fueling solutions for the 1.5T so they may have more development resources available to crack it now. WIth just over 1000 cars in the US, the market isnt even that large to dump more time in it at this point.

There's also no specific intakes and 2 exhausts for the car either, is that concerning?

 

[Shankmeyster]

With the EPA cracking down on aftermarket parts I wouldn't be surprised if car coampanies are going to start encrypting the ECU's with insane coding just to keep us away from tuning.

 

[Integra23]

With the EPA cracking down on aftermarket parts I wouldn't be surprised if car coampanies are going to start encrypting the ECU's with insane coding just to keep us away from tuning.

That and do what Tesla does with OTA updates

 

[tacthecat]

You mean the 4-wheeled CPU with the (Windows "Tuesday") drive-by updates!

 

[Obscure_Worship]

Sorry but intakes and exhausts are a bad comparison. It takes multiple prototypes and iterations to bring an intake or exhaust to market. Ecu tuning is cracking an encryption and altering fueling and timing. Not prototyping a product. Google new bosch ecu untunable. Manufacturers don't want people to have access to "safety" electronics etc. So yes, 6 months and no tune on an established platform with a slightly different turbo IS concerning.

 

[Two Step Performance]

Perhaps @Hondata would like to offer their input?

 

[dandaman15]

Sorry but intakes and exhausts are a bad comparison. It takes multiple prototypes and iterations to bring an intake or exhaust to market. Ecu tuning is cracking an encryption and altering fueling and timing. Not prototyping a product. Google new bosch ecu untunable. Manufacturers don't want people to have access to "safety" electronics etc. So yes, 6 months and no tune on an established platform with a slightly different turbo IS concerning.

It takes multiple iterations and trials to crack an ECU code as well. Hondata has not worked with this before and this is unique to the 11th gen. How is it an established platform already? The entire ECU is completely different and updated vs FK8 and 11th gen SI. These things take time but its not impossible.

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