Making this car more raw?

[cryptolime]

or some aftermarket motor mounts. that will make it feel more raw.
also a lot cheaper than a dozen different mods that throw reliability out the window.

the Wunderladen trans mount and rmm are great

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[Jack90210]

How did I miss this thread? I'm looking for more feedback through the wheel and through the seat. So far I've ordered up:

Spoon rigid collar kits (front/rear)
Whiteline anti-lift kit
Cobb rear motor mount
Acuity shifter

I'm pretty sure that this'll be a good start, and down the road I'll be considering RV6 rear arms, a rear sway bar, camber offset ball joints, a mild spring upgrade (H&R or similar) and maybe some braces/stiff plate.

 

[Cueyo]

How did I miss this thread? I'm looking for more feedback through the wheel and through the seat. So far I've ordered up:

Spoon rigid collar kits (front/rear)
Whiteline anti-lift kit
Cobb rear motor mount
Acuity shifter

I'm pretty sure that this'll be a good start, and down the road I'll be considering RV6 rear arms, a rear sway bar, camber offset ball joints, a mild spring upgrade (H&R or similar) and maybe some braces/stiff plate.

Be careful with the anti lift kit, I ran the power flex one on my old 24 civic sport and they can get unbearably squeaky once the lubrication dries up. The drive feel however, is a lot better

 

[ABPDE5]

Be careful with the anti lift kit, I ran the power flex one on my old 24 civic sport and they can get unbearably squeaky once the lubrication dries up. The drive feel however, is a lot better

How much does the ALK impact ride quality?

 

[TypeRbuilder]

Is this some kind of spoof post?? Lol.

Let me get this straight, you are comparing a mid $40,000 compact sedan, granted, it’s the best front wheel drive platform in the world, versus $200+ thousand dollar cars? Ok. Phew. I thought you were talking something crazy.

But I will make you a deal. Give me 50 grand and I will make this FL5 faster and better handling than any Porsche you’ve ever been in… Just saying.

and coming from someone who’s driven a lot of fast cars over his 60 years, this is probably one of the most fun cars I’ve ever been in and had the pleasure of owning. And I haven’t even scratched the surface on what I’m gonna do to it.

 

[Cueyo]

How much does the ALK impact ride quality?

Honestly not at all, at least from what I could feel. Once the poly bushings went dry it got pretty loud though.

 

[ABPDE5]

Honestly not at all, at least from what I could feel. Once the poly bushings went dry it got pretty loud though.

Did you do the LCA bushings, too?

 

[r513ctr]

You want raw go catless with a titanium exhaust.

 

[MooMoo]

Currently the mods I've done so far to achieve rawness...
PRL intake (pretty fun to hear the noise...)
PRL RMM (meh)
Hondata 91 octane tune (nicely wakes up the car but the power surge at ~4500 RPM needs to be smoother)

Other random mods
Acuity shift knob (hated the slippery stock one)
Acuity gas pedal thing that lets me move the gas pedal closer to the brakes for heel-toe'ing
Unplugged the fake engine noise

Definitely need
Exhaust and downpipe to get more sound and power. I'll be happy with solid 400WHP.
Acuity shifter - won't add to the rawness but want to match the best shifters I've ever experience (s2000 and 911 S/T).
Either lowering springs or coilovers
Maybe also get that suspension module.

Mod ordered and coming:
Apex ML10RT (plan to get nice sticky tires to go with them)

Agree with what you have done so far, well I don't have a tune so won't comment on that but IMO an intake is the best thing for this car, it makes fun noises for a cheap price (PRL). RMM I am with you imo a waste of money. People swear on this but all it has introduced to me is NVH, I don't launch the car though so maybe a difference experience for others but on track I see zero difference.
Acuity shifter I am considering as a future upgrade myself. The honda shifter is already excellent but there is definitely room for improvement, easy to install and not that expensive.

I am going to be installing H&R springs soon. Really just for looks but coilovers is the way to go always I just don't want to spend the money and the time dialing them. Hope the springs don't ruin anything since the car is excellent as is.

Another thing that maybe would not count towards rawness is the integra type S ADM (or can get the fancy DCS as well), it lets you drive the car in +R which adds some rawness, without it +R is in my opinion undrivable.


Exhaust does add another layer, more feedback and its pretty fun. Unlike some cars on this one I would not put it on the top of my list. I am glad I have it but was not as good of an upgrade as the intake.

 

[jtlctr]

Agree with what you have done so far, well I don't have a tune so won't comment on that but IMO an intake is the best thing for this car, it makes fun noises for a cheap price (PRL). RMM I am with you imo a waste of money. People swear on this but all it has introduced to me is NVH, I don't launch the car though so maybe a difference experience for others but on track I see zero difference.
Acuity shifter I am considering as a future upgrade myself. The honda shifter is already excellent but there is definitely room for improvement, easy to install and not that expensive.

I am going to be installing H&R springs soon. Really just for looks but coilovers is the way to go always I just don't want to spend the money and the time dialing them. Hope the springs don't ruin anything since the car is excellent as is.

Another thing that maybe would not count towards rawness is the integra type S ADM (or can get the fancy DCS as well), it lets you drive the car in +R which adds some rawness, without it +R is in my opinion undrivable.


Exhaust does add another layer, more feedback and its pretty fun. Unlike some cars on this one I would not put it on the top of my list. I am glad I have it but was not as good of an upgrade as the intake.

Yeah, the RMM didn’t make a very noticeable difference to me either. I did it because it made a huge difference in previous cars I’ve owned, but I didn’t have an issue with the stock one on the FL5.

 

[MooMoo]

Yeah, the RMM didn’t make a very noticeable difference to me either. I did it because it made a huge difference in previous cars I’ve owned, but I didn’t have an issue with the stock one on the FL5.

honestly think people just overhyped it to justify their purchase.

 

[Jack90210]

Be careful with the anti lift kit, I ran the power flex one on my old 24 civic sport and they can get unbearably squeaky once the lubrication dries up. The drive feel however, is a lot better

I've been wondering about this, it'll be a testbed for other poly bushings. As I said above I'm going for more feedback through the wheel and the seat, and usually the first step is to remove the "give" at the rubber bushings. I don't mind a firm ride but I don't want squeaks! Appreciate the heads-up.

As it is now the car compares favorably to my stock, low-mileage E92 335i (N54) as I go back and forth between the two. I'll be setting that up as a summer/track attack car with bushing upgrades front and rear, including solid rear subframe bushings and spherical control-arm bushings up front. Neither car needs more power at the moment (I have a modded/tuned Macan Turbo that scratches that itch).

Looking forward to following up in this thread.

 

[Cueyo]

Did you do the LCA bushings, too?

Yes I did

 

[Blindeye_03]

Yeah, the RMM didn’t make a very noticeable difference to me either. I did it because it made a huge difference in previous cars I’ve owned, but I didn’t have an issue with the stock one on the FL5.

I am glad I am not taking crazy pills - I could tell a pretty significant difference when I had the PRL RMM installed on my FK8. Then I did the same to my FL5 and I can barely tell its there.

 

[cryptolime]

I am glad I am not taking crazy pills - I could tell a pretty significant difference when I had the PRL RMM installed on my FK8. Then I did the same to my FL5 and I can barely tell its there.

the OEM mount is probably stiff enough. The Si one has a noticeable amount of slop.

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