The FL5 Dealer ADM Markup Thread

[mbaapk]

Its amazing how scummy the dealers can be - best medicine is to let em sit on the lot.

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[TDC50]

The worst part is you are paying to have them rip apart your brand new car for the privilege of having that over priced crap installed. I’d prefer just to pay a markup and leave all the crap off so they don’t f up my new ride

 

[Integra23]

$199 for NITROGEN? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I can tell you right now that Nitrogen is BS as we have one of those machines at my job and there is no special tank or filter that makes it pump Nitrogen. $1495 for LoJack? Who the hell even uses that anymore?

78% of our air is nitrogen...

 

[ram3noodles]

yuck

 

[Bazgab]

Contacted Bisbee Honda of Danville in VA about a SGP FL5 they have on the lot. They said it was pre-sold at $7k ADM but it could be mine for $10k ADM since the paperwork isn't signed yet. Gross.

 

[mbaapk]

Contacted Bisbee Honda of Danville in VA about a SGP FL5 they have on the lot. They said it was pre-sold at $7k ADM but it could be mine for $10k ADM since the paperwork isn't signed yet. Gross.

That is so bad. Wow. Gross is an understatement. I call that straight fd up.

 

[Integra23]

Contacted Bisbee Honda of Danville in VA about a SGP FL5 they have on the lot. They said it was pre-sold at $7k ADM but it could be mine for $10k ADM since the paperwork isn't signed yet. Gross.

Maybe it was a sales tactic. How long was it on the lot?

 

[Bazgab]

Maybe it was a sales tactic. How long was it on the lot?

That is possible but it was so off-putting that I didn't press the issue. No clue how long the car was on the lot, I think it had just arrived recently.

 

[TypeRD]

Yeah, that’s trashy vibes regardless if it is just a sales tactic and not actually presold. Good sign to stay away from that dealership.

 

[menikmati]

Got a fun one.

Found a CW in transit to Russ Darrow Honda in Milwaukee, WI so I hit them up.

Sales rep Dwight asks if I'm set on a Type R or would a Si suffice. I respond with Type R. He responds that they have one in transit estimated to arrive in July. We continue to proceed and I'm sent an initial pricing proposal. There was a $500 protection film package that was non-negotiable, but I was willing to eat the cost if the price was right.

I am informed that the price of the vehicle is UNDER MSRP. Big red flag. We go back and forth a couple of emails and he asks if I'm ready to put my name down to reserve it. I respond and explicitly ask what the price of the vehicle is, any mandatory accessories, etc. Basically the price before tax, title and license before committing. At this point, the $10k ADM magically appears in his response with the claim that they are "the only dealer in the state and 1 out of 7 in the entire country with one."

I respond asking why the ADM was not disclosed up front or on the pricing proposal, only when I was just about to commit and try to lower the ADM since it would give another forum member the opportunity to buy since I am firm on MSRP. I get the cookie-cutter sales tactic of "this is our best we can do" with a lower ADM and it's still scummy.

I restate my question on why I was being blindsided with the ADM at this moment when I asked for pricing way earlier in the email chain.

Their response, verbatim: " had you come IN when the vehicle arrives it will be ADVERTISED ON THE ADDENDUM "

So a bait-and-switch? Great. Could've saved us a dozen emails by just stating it up front and me saying no.

I responded to their FOMO/scarcity claims with info from Motoring Obsession and and Steven Matchett's Type R finder tools/sites, even offering to provide VINs.

They can get fucked.

 

[Phil Devtec]

Got a fun one.

Found a CW in transit to Russ Darrow Honda in Milwaukee, WI so I hit them up.

Sales rep Dwight asks if I'm set on a Type R or would a Si suffice. I respond with Type R. He responds that they have one in transit estimated to arrive in July. We continue to proceed and I'm sent an initial pricing proposal. There was a $500 protection film package that was non-negotiable, but I was willing to eat the cost if the price was right.

I am informed that the price of the vehicle is UNDER MSRP. Big red flag. We go back and forth a couple of emails and he asks if I'm ready to put my name down to reserve it. I respond and explicitly ask what the price of the vehicle is, any mandatory accessories, etc. Basically the price before tax, title and license before committing. At this point, the $10k ADM magically appears in his response with the claim that they are "the only dealer in the state and 1 out of 7 in the entire country with one."

I respond asking why the ADM was not disclosed up front or on the pricing proposal, only when I was just about to commit and try to lower the ADM since it would give another forum member the opportunity to buy since I am firm on MSRP. I get the cookie-cutter sales tactic of "this is our best we can do" with a lower ADM and it's still scummy.

I restate my question on why I was being blindsided with the ADM at this moment when I asked for pricing way earlier in the email chain.

Their response, verbatim: " had you come IN when the vehicle arrives it will be ADVERTISED ON THE ADDENDUM "

So a bait-and-switch? Great. Could've saved us a dozen emails by just stating it up front and me saying no.

I responded to their FOMO/scarcity claims with info from Motoring Obsession and and Steven Matchett's Type R finder tools/sites, even offering to provide VINs.

They can get fucked.

I think some dealers forget that the internet exists.

 

[Bazgab]

I think some dealers forget that the internet exists.

Exactly. Had a MD dealer with a $20k ADM go into the whole "We have one of the only ones in the country.." bullshit. Yeah, sure buddy. That is why I have talked to like 20 dealers that have them available on the lot or in the next weeks just in the past 2 days (no good deals though...).

 

[callmedh]

A dealership in the Atlanta Georgia area has a championship white coming in. MSRP + $5000 ADM + $1144 accessory package that they put on every car on their lot. So yes, there is a markup, but it seems to be less than what everyone else is seeing. Call Joe Headley at 404-784-1150 and tell him David sent you.

 

[CyberCTR]

A dealership in the Atlanta Georgia area has a championship white coming in. MSRP + $5000 ADM + $1144 accessory package that they put on every car on their lot. So yes, there is a markup, but it seems to be less than what everyone else is seeing. Call Joe Headley at 404-784-1150 and tell him David sent you.

thanks for posting this. I’m sure someone from here will be on that, and hopefully it is that straightforward because that’s a good deal.

 

[menikmati]

A dealership in the Atlanta Georgia area has a championship white coming in. MSRP + $5000 ADM + $1144 accessory package that they put on every car on their lot. So yes, there is a markup, but it seems to be less than what everyone else is seeing. Call Joe Headley at 404-784-1150 and tell him David sent you.

Looks like you also provided information from this dealership and sales rep for the FK8 which they sold at MSRP a while back, so hopefully it's a straightforward buying process to whomever gets this deal.

https://www.civicx.com/forum/threads/ctr-at-or-below-sticker-nice-list.11640/post-677057

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