That was a nice review, and the major British car mags (CAR and EVO) always have such amazing roads they test drive on. They picked the M2, but preferred the steering, brakes and handling of the Type R. Shame the M2 looks like a dog's ass.
This is true, but there are large costs and risks associated with HPDE events, especially with large groups of varying competence. Insurance is an issue, and I've seen my share of newly wrecked cars over the years. Too many incompetent or over-confident drivers out there that you can't trust. I seldom go to HPDE events, as I was saying in my prior post, but when I do, I go with the NER PCA black group. These are the few folks that are competent and I trust out there. I may take my FL5 at some point with them just for kicks. You want to improve as a driver? Rent a race-prepped car at a track and go at it. Go do karting. It will all translate to the street.valid and based on my personal experiences modding my S2000 for HPDE events I would say you’re absolutely correct. But I would just add, HPDE are just that, take it for what it is. Making oneself a better driver. In the process, have some fun because some cars can’t be driven hard on the street, we would put others on the road and pedestrians in danger.
What I would add is that all it took was one HPDE event to experience limp mode and throwing codes in my FK8. Where as many sessions with the S2000, no issues. I chalk it up to the possibility of NA versus turbo and modern electronics. People can mod however they want. They will learn over time what they want and whether it’s worth it.
I went karting a few times at F1 Boston Indoors and Outdoors (the latter is amazing). The kart was very squirrelly under braking and when cornering, great way to learn car control.This is true, but there are large costs and risks associated with HPDE events, especially with large groups of varying competence. Insurance is an issue, and I've seen my share of newly wrecked cars over the years. Too many incompetent or over-confident drivers out there that you can't trust. I seldom go to HPDE events, as I was saying in my prior post, but when I do, I go with the NER PCA black group. These are the few folks that are competent and I trust out there. I may take my FL5 at some point with them just for kicks. You want to improve as a driver? Rent a race-prepped car at a track and go at it. Go do karting. It will all translate to the street.
This is the worst article I've read in recent memory, typos and all. The DE5 has Recaro seats? The front seats are also ventilated? It also has intuitive arm rests. What does that even mean?It's over. I'm ready to trade after this one.
https://www.hotcars.com/acura-integ...da-civic-type-r-mechanical-engineer-explains/
I'm with @Clark_Kent on this one--this article shouldn't lead anyone to trade anything. The DE5 doesn't have Recaro seats, it has A-Spec + Tech seats with slightly more bolstering and no memory function. The HUD doesn't display the gear you're in, it will display Apple Maps directions and speed limits, but it's not as fun as the +R gauge cluster, in my opinion. The DE5 doesn't have anything close to the LogR system. I'm not an expert, but the sound systems are almost indistinguishable. The clutch and shifter feel the same.It's over. I'm ready to trade after this one.
https://www.hotcars.com/acura-integ...da-civic-type-r-mechanical-engineer-explains/
I appreciate hearing from someone who has owned both.I'm with @Clark_Kent on this one--this article shouldn't lead anyone to trade anything. The DE5 doesn't have Recaro seats, it has A-Spec + Tech seats with slightly more bolstering and no memory function. The HUD doesn't display the gear you're in, it will display Apple Maps directions and speed limits, but it's not as fun as the +R gauge cluster, in my opinion. The DE5 doesn't have anything close to the LogR system. I'm not an expert, but the sound systems are almost indistinguishable. The clutch and shifter feel the same.
As someone who traded a DE5 (MSRP) for a FL5 (also MSRP) after ~600 miles, I can say with no doubt that the two cars are almost indistinguishable. For me, the FL5 seemed to have a higher build quality, and I personally found more joy in the look/feel of the FL5. Coming from a '23 A-Spec + Tech Integra, the DE5 didn't feel like a CTR for grownups, it felt like I traded a handful of nice features for a bigger engine and an exterior styling upgrade, but that's just me.
Comparison is the thief of joy. As long as you don't overpay, you can't go wrong with either car.
You should have stopped reading after he said this:It's over. I'm ready to trade after this one.
https://www.hotcars.com/acura-integ...da-civic-type-r-mechanical-engineer-explains/