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I'm looking at replacing the stock wheels, but still looking at 19" with the same sized tire as OE but something good for all-weather (DWS06 Plus). If I purchase the Spoon progressive springs which lower front/rear by 20mm, will I need to look into dropping to 18" wheels, as well?
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You should still be able to a 19" but 18" is more comfortable.
 

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Overall rolling diameters will be the same (for all intents and purposes) unless you purposely up or downsize tires. It doesn't matter if its a 18 or 19" wheel. It will come down to your preference of aesthetics at that point. A bigger wheel with less sidewall or a smaller wheel with more sidewall.
 
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Definitely can stay with 19's. For aftermarket wheels, you'll need to take note of the wheel diameter and offset though.
 
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I'm planning on getting something similar to OE wrt diameter/offset. Yep, noted! Thanks, everyone!
 


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I'm on Spoon Springs with Mugen MF10 18x9.5 +40 with a 5mm spacer in the front and rear. I will say the 18's do ride more comfy due and it sits perfect.

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I run a 275/35-19 Vredestein Hypertrac for the winter on stock wheels, WITHOUT spacers you are fine, with the 15mm/13mm I run it would be REAL close! That's with 35 series. Which is highly recommended for drive comfort, wheel safety and filling that gap nicely! I MIGHT not even lower the car now :)
 

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I run a 275/35-19 Vredestein Hypertrac for the winter on stock wheels, WITHOUT spacers you are fine, with the 15mm/13mm I run it would be REAL close! That's with 35 series. Which is highly recommended for drive comfort, wheel safety and filling that gap nicely! I MIGHT not even lower the car now :)
As an aside, I looked those tires up and they're very well rated on TireRack. For winter weather I'm running Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4s in 245/35R-19 (on factory wheels) and am impressed with their feel, but when they wear out (or age out, ha) I'll look up the Vredesteins.
 


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Alright, I think I'm convinced on the 18".

What I'm looking at is the TE37 Saga S-Plus 18x9.5 / Offset +45 / 5x120. I assume beyond this, I need a hub centric ring to convert the bore size as well as (17 Hex?) M14x1.5 lug nuts (OEs won't fit, correct?), plus center cap. And a 265/35RZ18 XL.

Anything else I'm missing?
 
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I'm on Spoon Springs with Mugen MF10 18x9.5 +40 with a 5mm spacer in the front and rear. I will say the 18's do ride more comfy due and it sits perfect.

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This car is pretty much perfect. One of the best looking FL5s I've ever seen. Clean, effective. Great job.

Alright, I think I'm convinced on the 18".

What I'm looking at is the TE37 Saga S-Plus 18x9.5 / Offset +45 / 5x120. I assume beyond this, I need a hub centric ring to convert the bore size as well as (17 Hex?) M14x1.5 lug nuts (OEs won't fit, correct?), plus center cap. And a 265/35RZ18 XL.

Anything else I'm missing?
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I will ask you kindly reconsider all seasons. They bring the car down dramatically. I have DWS06+ on mine right now to deal with the shitty Maryland winters (I don't drive in actual snow if I can help it) and I cannot wait to get real tires back on again. Granted, when I switched in November I was coming from a really sticky 200TW Falken RT660+, but still. I literally felt like something was wrong the first time I drove it with the all-seasons on... so much "slop". Granted, after a few weeks the disappointment faded but still... I can't forget having that reference point and remembering how much better the car is with the type of rubber it's meant to have on it. I always feel compelled to discourage people considering all-seasons year round. This car deserves better.

Get your Volks, but keep your OEMs for winter. If you're not tracking you can't go wrong with sticking with Michelin PS4S, just be warned that the "off the shelf" PS4S is not as good for this platform as the OEM "DT1" PS4S that have firmer sidewalls and specialized compound for FWD. In that sense you could also save a few bucks and go with something like Conti ECS02s. I just highly recommend keeping an actual summer tire on this car in the summer. I wouldn't recommend a 200TW unless you're actually using it for motorsports-type activities. They're just not worth the added NVH and reduced wear on the street IMHO. Also they suck in rain (I hear Bridgestones are better for that, I'll find out in a month or so).

edit: beyond the topic of tires but while we're on the subject of springs- with the springs, it changed the dynamic of front/rear camber. If you did the springs and nothing else, you now have significantly more camber in the rear than the front (roughly 1 degree unless you did the strut pin trick, then it's about .5-.75 a degree...). That's not a good thing especially for a front-drive car. You likely won't notice it driving on the street (I didn't), but trust me it makes a difference. I won't go into detail in this thread but there is plenty of discussion on this forum about it- basically any thread that references understeer, camber, or ball joints will likely fill you in.
 
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Thanks for the advice. The Washington rain calls for something other-than-summer tires and like you, I wouldn't drive this in snow. But the OE summer tires need to get replaced if I'm going to get this thing out of the garage more than once a week. I do plan on keeping the OE wheels and tires.

I'll avoid the springs for now, I don't want to get into camber, etc. as I don't know enough about it. I'm really only looking at things that are fit-and-forget, for the moment.
 

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Thanks for the advice. The Washington rain calls for something other-than-summer tires and like you, I wouldn't drive this in snow. But the OE summer tires need to get replaced if I'm going to get this thing out of the garage more than once a week. I do plan on keeping the OE wheels and tires.

I'll avoid the springs for now, I don't want to get into camber, etc. as I don't know enough about it. I'm really only looking at things that are fit-and-forget, for the moment.
The PS4S are pretty good in rain but I get it. I tried ;).
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