XDI or Full Race HPFP

[J_D]

No reports of Hondata breaking ?

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[Vtec87pr1]

No reports of Hondata breaking ?

Doesn't look like it if I ever decide to upgrade my fuel pump I probably buy hondata now that I seen all this issues in person.

 

[J_D]

Same. In the OG Honda guys we trust

 

[AspecR]

No reports of Hondata breaking ?

If it was an issue we would know by now, many tracked FK8s have been running the Hondata system for years without issue, before the Full race pump came along.

 

[blueroadster]

Considering the coin dropped on the HPFP, I certainly hope that Full Race and/or Nostrum figure out and offer a reliable solution for free to those that already purchased.

I have yet to install the HPFP. When I contacted Full Race to inquire about a replacement high-pressure fuel line, I was immediately directed to contact Nostrum for any warranty/support claims.

 

[HondaHoon]

Considering the coin dropped on the HPFP, I certainly hope that Full Race and/or Nostrum figure out and offer a reliable solution for free to those that already purchased.

I have yet to install the HPFP. When I contacted Full Race to inquire about a replacement high-pressure fuel line, I was immediately directed to contact Nostrum for any warranty/support claims.

Yes Sir. This is their MO. Full Race is nothing but a stamped name on that pump. They literally and figuratively do NOT stand behind that product .0000001%.

This is a Nostrum product and problem. I doubt they will come up with any solution. They released the V3 line not that long ago. Since it was an installation error of course. ((Sarcasm))

 

[TypeRVA]

The funniest part is it's just a Audi pump. The one part they designed is the issue.

Yes Sir. This is their MO. Full Race is nothing but a stamped name on that pump. They literally and figuratively do NOT stand behind that product .0000001%.

This is a Nostrum product and problem. I doubt they will come up with any solution. They released the V3 line not that long ago. Since it was an installation error of course. ((Sarcasm))

 

[blueroadster]

Yes Sir. This is their MO. Full Race is nothing but a stamped name on that pump. They literally and figuratively do NOT stand behind that product .0000001%.

This is a Nostrum product and problem. I doubt they will come up with any solution. They released the V3 line not that long ago. Since it was an installation error of course. ((Sarcasm))

I have stood behind Full Race for decades/various builds and guess that times have changed when it comes to partnering and rebranding with other manufacturer products. In the past, anything from Full Race was top notch where in-house development, robotic welders, and engineering research resulted in a quality product that was second to none. I also appreciated their attention to detail and perfection when I was working with Geoff directly to have Full Race develop a custom manifold and compressor housing for my 2006 Civic Si build.

I certainly hope that Full Race takes the lead and remembers their engineering roots to figure out a solution to the high-pressure fuel line connection failure. Considering the engineering involved with developing the pump itself, I would think that a simple solution may work to eliminate the point of failure (e.g., provide a replacement high-pressure fuel line that has a welded connection to an integrated and replacement fuel rail).

 

[blueroadster]

The funniest part is it's just a Audi pump. The one part they designed is the issue.

Seriously?

 

[HondaHoon]

I have stood behind Full Race for decades/various builds and guess that times have changed when it comes to partnering and rebranding with other manufacturer products. In the past, anything from Full Race was top notch where in-house development, robotic welders, and engineering research resulted in a quality product that was second to none. I also appreciated their attention to detail and perfection when I was working with Geoff directly to have Full Race develop a custom manifold and compressor housing for my 2006 Civic Si build.

I certainly hope that Full Race takes the lead and remembers their engineering roots to figure out a solution to the high-pressure fuel line connection failure. Considering the engineering involved with developing the pump itself, I would think that a simple solution may work to eliminate the point of failure (e.g., provide a replacement high-pressure fuel line that has a welded connection to an integrated and replacement fuel rail).

Full Race, in partnership with Nostrum released this pump around July 2024. Since that time, they have directed all issues, problems, and concerns directly to Nostrum. No customer service whatsoever. I seriously doubt they are going to take the lead and fix this issue. More than likely because that would throw a wrench in their business partnership strategy.

Yes, Nostrum is using the Euro cheat code on this one for sure. Of course adapting it to the FL5. It works and is not the problem however.

Yes, this is very disappointing considering the price of entry for this setup was so high.

 

[AspecR]

Seriously?

Yes the core design of the pump is from the B9 Audi chassis

 

[TW00Si]

Maybe Fullrace will start directing customers to Audi when the pump fails.

 

[SKINNIE]

The car that caught fire at VIR was V3

There's a couple of guys local to me that had theirs fail also. One is a tuner with v3 line.

 

[PointByPatrol]

I'm running the XDI pump and (drilled) factory line, and I've never had any problems.

I've installed at least 3 or 4 of the Full Race Pumps. The adapter is not a direct fit, there is wiggle room for the 10mm allens that screw the adapter to the base plate on the engine, there are no lock nuts or washers of any kind to hold the base plate down, which means that with the wiggle room, there is limited contact for the 10's to hold the base plate down. Makes me incredibly nervous...

If I were the manufacturer I would:

1) Tighten the specs of the base plate so that it's impossible to have it clocked even a mm off. (no wiggle on the bolts)
2)Utilize lock washers on the 10mm bolts.
3)Recommend a dab of blue loctite on all fasteners.
4)Take a page from Honda's book on the factory line and match the quality. (The factory fuel line is incredibly well made in comparison to the V2 and V3 line that is available with their kit)

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