*The FL5 Track Junkie Thread*

[BigBird]

I was never able to get the R5s to not judder after I got deposits. I just don’t think they are abrasive enough to get rid of the deposits with rebeding, at least on the street. They got better after I sanded the rotors but got bad again after a track day. With the SR11s after a track day the deposits from the R5s mostly went away.
Can always get hawk blue pads to really clear the deposits then switch back to the R5s but I think you will just get deposits again, I thought it was me when I was complaining a few months ago but seems like more people are having issues now

So it's not only me

The OEM pads cleaned them out in a few weeks.

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[MooMoo]

So it's not only me

The OEM pads cleaned them out in a few weeks.

not only you, I have been complaining about the R5 specifically since May when I did my first track day with this car at Palmer. It basically ruined my day, like PointbyPatrol the vibration was so bad that I was pitting early. Did not help that my calipers were weeping and between both things was not really a fun day. I fought with these damn pads for months trying everything I could but would just keep happening (I never switched back to OEMs or other pads though, just sand pads, sand rotors, etc). I have had deposits before so I knew knew it was deposits but usually you drive car home after a track day and they are mostly gone.

I think they just really need a very good 1st time bedding, I actually did what I always do and was what the manufacturer recommends but I don't think it was enough. Just not the pad for me

 

[TW00Si]

I think I’m going to stick with the current setup and not mess with it. Paragon P3 in front and OEM in rear. The wife is fine with the seldom low squeak at the front, the car stops at the track and if it ain’t broke…

 

[MooMoo]

Definitely don’t go R5 if noise is a concern, they were some of the noisiest pads I ever had. The SR11 are actually pretty quiet most of the time, a little squeel when coming to a stop… just to warn pedestrians really.

i am still running p3s in the back.

 

[svvitch]

Definitely don’t go R5 if noise is a concern, they were some of the noisiest pads I ever had. The SR11 are actually pretty quiet most of the time, a little squeel when coming to a stop… just to warn pedestrians really.

i am still running p3s in the back.

I noticed with my SR11 they were silent for a month after my last track day. It seems daily driving them makes them a little noisy. Oh well totally fine with a little squeal every so often.

 

[J1Avs]

Yep, sounds exactly like what happens. I may try some CSG pads next time, but want to get a chance to rebed these and see what happens

This is the way. I'm incredibly impressed with the new C1X compound. Comes pre-bedded as well. No judder, no fade. 182 laps, 30 Sessions/Heat Cycles across 8 days + ~ 1000 street miles, and I'd wager another day or two left, but I need to take some measurements here shortly.

R5's really don't belong on the front of this car, it's going to overheat it too quick, and as everyone is noticing, leave a ton of deposits as it rapidly exceeds its optimal temp.

 

[Rexpelagi]

Definitely don’t go R5 if noise is a concern, they were some of the noisiest pads I ever had.

You clearly never used Hawk pads - I've been street driving on R5's front/rear.

 

[Rexpelagi]

Paragon was under $3k, now it's a bit over, but probably the cheapest one for our platform.

On my Golf R I had the 6 piston Stoptechs that were $2500 a few years ago and now it's over $5k, things certainly got inflated

Yep, absolutely! I bought a Stoptech C43 kit in early 2021 for an S2000 I used to own for $2k, and now I think that kit is listed close to $4.5k, it's crazy.

 

[Rexpelagi]

The whole video is an advertisement for AP Racing

I know AP Racing is a great brand - I've looked at them for other cars but never actually moved forward.

I'm surprised by their experience on the Type R though - I wonder if Autobahn is particularly hard on brakes (or at least harder than average) - I think they alluded to it in another video?

With R5s front and rear, which by the mu/temp data aren't even particularly impressive, I haven't really felt like the pedal has started to go soft in any measurable way, but I've only been on 2 tracks so far and I don't use +R (so I don't have the rear brake contributing so much heat).

 

[Zpeedster M]

Endless brake setup with no pedal dance & cheap Chinese tires lol.

 

[BigBird]

With all those walls, meh tires, I would have left it on as well.

His reasoning though is suspect at best. To take it off would be to disregard Honda engineers...like errr..what

 

[PointByPatrol]

With all those walls, meh tires, I would have left it on as well.

His reasoning though is suspect at best. To take it off would be to disregard Honda engineers...like errr..what

The car fights you with all of the nannies left on....this guy is dreaming.

 

[svvitch]

Endless brake setup with no pedal dance & cheap Chinese tires lol.

I just took a little nap with that in the background lol

 

[yeaitsahonda]

Yep, absolutely! I bought a Stoptech C43 kit in early 2021 for an S2000 I used to own for $2k, and now I think that kit is listed close to $4.5k, it's crazy.

The Stoptech S2000 kit is what I based my price assumptions on. Never had it because I couldn’t afford to track a modified S2000 when I owned it. Apparently I still can’t haha.

 

[Tougefl5]

Spoon fl5 did 24 hours at button willow with cheap ass paragon set up. Do y'all really need 5k brakes lmfao

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