*The FL5 Track Junkie Thread*

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I drove Gingerman at the 2015 ITR Expo… it’s shockingly similar to Roebling Road in Savannah with a tiny bit of elevation. Agreed on needing to optimize for the sweepers that are there… some rear toe out should help or, if you can dial out some rear camber, that may give you a similar result?

Hope you have a good time at Midwest Fest! I’ve been involved in various GL events since ~2017 and was at the RA event the other weekend (spectating/seeing buddies). Their events are always a blast!
I don't have any rear camber adjustment, so toe it is lol.

Thanks! I went last year and really had a lot of fun, so looking forward to this year as well.
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We installed a whole bunch of suspension on our shop FL5. We were running on Eibach Sportline Springs for a bit while we got our suspension package in place.

You can find all the parts on our site which will be link embedded!

We can also have a custom packaged deal with a discount depending on options like the Sakebomb camber plates (we are official dealers for Sakebomb Garage/FPSpec), EDC canceller, helper spring upgrade, custom spring rates etc. PM for more information!

- Ohlins R&T (stock 6k/10k springs) and Ohlins helper springs upgrade
- Sakebomb Camber Plates/Top Hat
- Awaiting our Swift Springs 6" 6k springs to come in then we'll swap out the front springs (fine balance between aesthetics and track functionality; we're good with losing a little bit of compression travel for more lows and we can always raise it up for track days if needed)
- Ohlins EDC Cancellation Kit
- Whiteline Front Lower Camber Ball Joints
- Whiteline Front Sway Bar Endlinks
- Whiteline Rear Lower Toe Arms
- Eibach Rear Upper Control (Camber) Arms

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We set the front LBJ to max camber pin setting (-3*), upper strut guide pins were already removed previously on the old set up, and adjusted the upper camber plate to farthest out (no additional camber).

Eyeballed everything with regards to camber/toe/caster and went to our friends shop for the alignment rack. For being eyeballed, I think we did pretty good all things considered :)

Wanted at least -3.5* front and -2.5* rear camber, and this was initial reading.

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Overall very happy with how it turned out! Once our Swift Springs come in, we may move the LBJ camber pin to the middle setting (-2*), then adjust from the top camber plate in order to reduce a little bit of the gained track width from camber adjustment from the LBJ as we're planning to run aggressive wheel specs and tire size once our shipment arrives! Also if you're in the North Texas DFW area, we can get all this installed and knocked out for you.
 
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We installed a whole bunch of suspension on our shop FL5. We were running on Eibach Sportline Springs for a bit while we got our suspension package in place.

You can find all the parts on our site which will be link embedded!

We can also have a custom packaged deal with a discount depending on options like the Sakebomb camber plates (we are official dealers for Sakebomb Garage/FPSpec), EDC canceller, helper spring upgrade, custom spring rates etc. PM for more information!

- Ohlins R&T (stock 6k/10k springs) and Ohlins helper springs upgrade
- Sakebomb Camber Plates/Top Hat
- Awaiting our Swift Springs 6" 6k springs to come in then we'll swap out the front springs (fine balance between aesthetics and track functionality; we're good with losing a little bit of compression travel for more lows and we can always raise it up for track days if needed)
- Ohlins EDC Cancellation Kit
- Whiteline Front Lower Camber Ball Joints
- Whiteline Front Sway Bar Endlinks
- Whiteline Rear Lower Toe Arms
- Eibach Rear Upper Control (Camber) Arms

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DSC_5284.jpg


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We set the front LBJ to max camber pin setting (-3*), upper strut guide pins were already removed previously on the old set up, and adjusted the upper camber plate to farthest out (no additional camber).

Eyeballed everything with regards to camber/toe/caster and went to our friends shop for the alignment rack. For being eyeballed, I think we did pretty good all things considered :)

Wanted at least -3.5* front and -2.5* rear camber, and this was initial reading.

1747787767802-ko.jpg


Final reading:
1747787796568-53.jpg


1747787824751-qm.jpg


Overall very happy with how it turned out! Once our Swift Springs come in, we may move the LBJ camber pin to the middle setting (-2*), then adjust from the top camber plate in order to reduce a little bit of the gained track width from camber adjustment from the LBJ as we're planning to run aggressive wheel specs and tire size once our shipment arrives! Also if you're in the North Texas DFW area, we can get all this installed and knocked out for you.
Based on my experience I think -4.1° front camber is quite a bit too much for track use, at least with increased power, although others may have different experience. I lost a lot of corner exit capability and also destroyed the inside of my tires at around -3.8° with ~370whp. I've now backed camber down to ~-2.8°. Curious how this one performs, although your spring rates are quite a bit lower than mine which may be a factor as well.
 

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Based on my experience I think -4.1° front camber is quite a bit too much for track use, at least with increased power, although others may have different experience. I lost a lot of corner exit capability and also destroyed the inside of my tires at around -3.8° with ~370whp. I've now backed camber down to ~-2.8°. Curious how this one performs, although your spring rates are quite a bit lower than mine which may be a factor as well.
Yeah, it could be too much, but we'll see. Also driving style has a lot to do with it too. Our track Cayman we run -3.2⁰ and its right on the money, but its obviously not a FWD FL5. Although we're also trying to balance track function with TA style aesthetics too. Talking to Racebred right now ;)
 

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Yeah, it could be too much, but we'll see. Also driving style has a lot to do with it too. Our track Cayman we run -3.2⁰ and its right on the money, but its obviously not a FWD FL5. Although we're also trying to balance track function with TA style aesthetics too. Talking to Racebred right now ;)
On a strut front RWD car I'd say -3° is probably the minimum, and I'd probably go more like -3.5° to -4°, but ya obviously there are much different dynamics on the FL5.

Aesthetically it looks great though!
 


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Why get the ball joints and also the camber plates? can't you just get what you need for the camber plates alone?
 

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Why get the ball joints and also the camber plates? can't you just get what you need for the camber plates alone?
Multiple adjustment options is never a bad thing. Also if you want to increase track width as a side-effect of the LBJ you can/will. Also the camber plates can also adjust caster independently so also another plus.

Similar to Porsche platforms - many double up on using LCA to adjust camber as well as camber plates both to fine tune camber and track width/scrub radius. On our Cayman we have camber plates that are maxed out at that -3.2⁰ that was mentioned, if we ever needed more we would need to do the LCA in addition to.
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